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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5599 Posts |
 Posted - 22/12/2011 : 18:18:15
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Some of you may remember my post regarding Echo having a bad shed a bit back. Things have gone from bad to worse since. 
She didn't take her feed before going into shed,nowt unusual there as she doesn't normally feed in shed anyway. Since then she still hasn't taken a feed,tried her in her tub,in a small feeding tub,braining,scenting and different prey sizes and finally multi mammates to no avail. At first I put it down to the stress of the shed but it appears theres more to it.
During this time I've hardly handled her,checked her over last week and weighed her (she'd lost a little weight) her brother is almost double her weight now. However,this morning I decided to check on her and her vent looked swollen and her tail looked wavy rather than straight (I guess you could say kinked).
Been the vets and she's taken a faecal sample (will hopefully find out the results tomorrow). I now have to give her antibiotics and syringe feed her,felt so damn cruel shoving a tube down her.
At the mo I don't know whats wrong or if she'll be ok,she literally has me worried sick for her. |
      
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Laws
Yearling
United Kingdom
935 Posts |
Posted - 22/12/2011 : 18:37:42
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| oh hun so sorry , fingers crossed for ur little one :( and big hugs to u! |
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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5599 Posts |
Posted - 22/12/2011 : 18:40:33
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| Thankyou. Thats means a lot,in a bit of a mess over it if I'm honest. |
3.1.0 Corn snakes, 1.0.0 T-Albino Cape House Snake, 0.1.0 Western Hognose,
1.0.0 MBK, 0.1.0 Childrens Python, 1.0.0 Nicaraguan Dwarf Boas
0.0.1 Occelated Skink, 1.0.0 Leopard Gecko, 1.0.3 Tarantulas, 0.0.2 Damon diadema
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nusnakemum
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1612 Posts |
Posted - 22/12/2011 : 20:08:37
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| its the worst thing in the world to be worrying over something so important, but you can only do what you can, think positive n take care x |
0.0.1 corn Ernest
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 22/12/2011 : 20:11:54
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| Awww Mort thats awful poor Echo. Fingers crossed its something minor (or nothing at all would be better). Keep us posted and I'm sure we'll all have our fingers crossed its all OK. |
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scottishbluebird
it is all my fault
United Kingdom
8403 Posts |
Posted - 22/12/2011 : 20:20:54
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| Hope everything goes ok xxx |
     
0.1.0 Corn - Kellogs
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Figs
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3319 Posts |
Posted - 22/12/2011 : 20:21:35
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Oh no!
Come on Echo, you can be ok! |
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thistle
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1757 Posts |
Posted - 23/12/2011 : 00:26:49
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I'm so sorry.
I hope you find out what's wrong and Echo gets better soon. |
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
6129 Posts |
Posted - 23/12/2011 : 14:59:20
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| Hope she gets better bless :( |
   
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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5292 Posts |
Posted - 23/12/2011 : 15:42:54
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| Oh no!! GET BETTER ECHO!!!! |
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RIP Skye x
Sleep well Sonny, Mummy loves you xx
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Emmy1
Yearling
707 Posts |
Posted - 23/12/2011 : 18:06:37
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| I'm sure the vet will do everything they can! I hope everything is okay Mort! You must keep us updated. Poor Echo! Thinking of you. |
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scottishbluebird
it is all my fault
United Kingdom
8403 Posts |
Posted - 23/12/2011 : 18:26:06
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| You had the results back yet? xxx |
0.1.0 Corn - Kellogs
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Kath
Yearling
United Kingdom
697 Posts |
Posted - 23/12/2011 : 19:11:30
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| Sorry to hear about Echo Mort. Fingers crossed & hope she's better soon. I'd be same, worried sick. Thinking of u... x |
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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5599 Posts |
Posted - 23/12/2011 : 21:50:49
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Thanks for the kind words everyone.
I got the results back early this afternoon and nothing has shown up. Vet said to take her back in a couple of weeks if theres no change for the better Things have however taken a turn for the worse,and I really think I'm losing her.
This is how I found her yesterday before taking her the vets:
Swollen vent:
This shows the kink in the tail:
This evening I saw her have what can only be described as a fit. Took her out to examine her,she wasn't moving about in a normal way (when she bothered moving that is) and her vents a lot worse:
I will be ringing the vets again tomorrow morning,but in the meantime I've included these photo's in the hope that someone may have seen this kind of thing before. I know I'm clutching at straws really but I've spent most of the last 2 days in tears. |
3.1.0 Corn snakes, 1.0.0 T-Albino Cape House Snake, 0.1.0 Western Hognose,
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0.0.1 Occelated Skink, 1.0.0 Leopard Gecko, 1.0.3 Tarantulas, 0.0.2 Damon diadema
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Emmy1
Yearling
707 Posts |
Posted - 23/12/2011 : 22:19:38
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Oh poor thing! It looks very sore indeed. I'd be in a state too, Mort.
I can only hope that all turns out okay and that the vet can help. It is so so worrying when reptiles turn for the worst.
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0.1.0 Anery Corn Snake
1.0.0 Normal Western Hognosed Snake
1.0.0 Albino California Kingsnake
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Wildtype, Hypo)
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 23/12/2011 : 22:58:06
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i know this is no healp now, but i think you need an Xray, it does look like there is some sort of impaction going on, and talking to Kate, she reckons the deformation of the tail could be down to vitamin and calcium deficiency.
I think the asnwer may lie in the xray, as much as i wish it wasnt the case, i dont think the outcome is going to be what we all want. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 23/12/2011 : 23:07:39
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Re reading a little, when you syringe feed, make sure she only has liquid, use critical care formula, it works really well, it also means that if there is something blocking her a little, the liquid can make its way past easily.
The sample the vet had, what was it like?? consistency wise? was it really stinky and runny, or fairly normal?? quality and quantity are the important bits, do you know what test the vets/labs did?? was it only a float test?? problem with that is that it doesnt pick up any kind of infection, only parasites, and even then its easy to miss!!
From your pics, it looks like the vent is quite swollen, ans has swollen more in a short space of time, or is that just the angle of the pic?
because, she goes from looking quite slim and consistent shape from body into tail, to there being quite a definite change in body angle, which would indicate some sort of blockage, be it an impaction, or possibly even a tumour, thats why you need an xray, to see whats going on inside.
Tumours can be removed quite easily, impactions can be sorted quite easily too, but its all time sensitive, and really, this isnt a good time of year!!!!
If you want to get hold of me, message me on the dreaded FB!!! i am there far more than i am here, and if i can help, i will! |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5599 Posts |
Posted - 24/12/2011 : 00:28:32
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Thanks Mike,I was hoping you might se this. She's being fed the critical care formula through a tube (catheter for a cat). There wasn't really much to work on sample wise (the vet commented on this),she took it from her vent. It looked very similar to how it does on the last photo,don't know if you can make it out? The colour is quite green,I'm not sure on the consistency. I did notice an odour in her tub though. To be honest I'm not sure what the name of the tests were,my heads in the shed at the mo
She's mentioned peforming a cloacal wash and a cardiac blood test? if she doesn't improve in the next couple of weeks. This was before I witnessed the fit this evening.
Her vent has swollen that much in that space of time,its not the angle. The vet commented on her feeling squidgy (as if full of gas) in the area previous to her vent.
I'll be ringing the vets tomoz morning,if she's still alive and I suppose I'll have to see what they say. Hopefully I'll be able to get in and get an X'ray done. Like you say though,its a really bad time of year.
Thankyou,I appreciate that,and will message you on fb tomorrow. Off bed now. |
3.1.0 Corn snakes, 1.0.0 T-Albino Cape House Snake, 0.1.0 Western Hognose,
1.0.0 MBK, 0.1.0 Childrens Python, 1.0.0 Nicaraguan Dwarf Boas
0.0.1 Occelated Skink, 1.0.0 Leopard Gecko, 1.0.3 Tarantulas, 0.0.2 Damon diadema
1.0.0 C0ckatiel,
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scottishbluebird
it is all my fault
United Kingdom
8403 Posts |
Posted - 24/12/2011 : 02:06:00
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| So So sorry. I really am hoping for the best, but i dread your next post, ask one one of your kids to give you a hug from me. love Fiona xxx |
0.1.0 Corn - Kellogs
1.0.0 Hognose - Storm
0.1.0 Staffy - Lyla
1.0.0 Spaffy(staffy x springer)-Spyro
1.0.0 Ferret - Peanut R.I.P
0.1.0 Crestie - Fudge. Wish List - Pygmy hedgehog. Tropiocolotes |
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nusnakemum
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1612 Posts |
Posted - 24/12/2011 : 08:50:24
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| big hugs from us to x |
0.0.1 corn Ernest
0.1.0 leopard gecko Mrs T
1.0.0 anery Black Eyed Bill RIP Bill x
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 24/12/2011 : 09:44:29
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Hiya, it doesnt sound good, the fit tends to make me think it has neurological damage.
If the colour of the poo is green, then that would indicate a fairly serious systemic infection, or Gi infection. I really think the Xray will give you answers, or maybe an ultrasound.
What antibiotics are you on?? If snakey is on oral Baytril, change it, its a really good broad spectrum antibiotic, but its a little on the weak side for a serious infection.
If you see the vet today, ask him to take a swab of the cloaca, send it to the vetlab and get them to grow it, that will tell you if theres an infection, and also which antibiotic to treat with, but for now i would go go onto injectable marbocyl,, infact, i dont use anything but.
The vet doesnt need a sample of poo, just a sterile swab of the cloaca, inside a little, thats all.
I think the scan and swab are the next step. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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Echos poorly :-(
