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Jason_app
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
41 Posts

Posted - 22/11/2011 :  00:45:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey all, thought i would put up a pic of my viv for my two corns.
Just decided to change from chipsi substrate to Cypress forest floor substrate. Its quite moist and i think the heat mat is going to cause a bit of condensation untill the cypress dries out.
How many of you use this substrate and what do you think of it?

Jase
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scottishbluebird
it is all my fault

United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/11/2011 :  01:03:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks good, sorry i use aspen. Please dont take my word for it, but would condensation possibly cause RI?


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Jason_app
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
41 Posts

Posted - 22/11/2011 :  01:14:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scottishbluebird

Looks good, sorry i use aspen. Please dont take my word for it, but would condensation possibly cause RI?



What is RI?

It says suitable for snakes and it certainly looks good but i have to say i am a little concerned about the moisture and humidity.

Jase

Edited by - Jason_app on 22/11/2011 01:15:16
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gmac
The Scottish Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/11/2011 :  01:30:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
RI= Respitory infection this can be brought on by high humidity.

your substrate can be used but would suggest drying it out in the oven first as there is too much moisture in this straight from the bag. Once dried out is fine. Substrates like this are suitable for snakes that require a higher humidity like rainbow boas but not particularly good for corns.


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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 22/11/2011 :  01:53:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As well as the health implications of damp substrate for corns such as the RI above and also scale rot from having a constantly damp belly the other slightly less important thing to consider is humidity kills vivariums that are not sealed 100% All edges and screw fitting needs sealing with a quality aquarium sealant (dont use ordinary sealant its full of potentially harmful chemicals to keep it mould free etc).

Once its prepared for the requirements of the snake living on it then it will be fine to use.

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gingerpony
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Posted - 22/11/2011 :  13:36:13  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
it's basically orchid bark given a different name...........as you buy it it's far too damp to use for the majority of species (including corns )and needs baking first to dry it out
the level of humidity it creates when used 'as is' is likely to cause belly/scale rot or respiratory problems - imagine trying to live in a sauna!

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Jason_app
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
41 Posts

Posted - 22/11/2011 :  17:59:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All taken on board so i have removed it and dried out the viv. I put some newspaper down temporarily today.

To dry out the substrate we put it in a pillow and put it through the tumble dryer for an hour, seems to have done the trick.

Looking forward to getting it back in later this evening as i think it looks good. I like the dark colour.

Jase
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kayjosh
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
29 Posts

Posted - 22/11/2011 :  19:14:05  Show Profile  Visit kayjosh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey, as you know Jason, I have chosen Aspen for my three and they are burrowing away and seem to be loving it guys, used chipsi before and although pretty certainly does not give my babies any excitement - Thanks for helping with the tank clean Jay.x

Edited by - kayjosh on 22/11/2011 19:14:52
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 22/11/2011 :  20:08:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jason_app

To dry out the substrate we put it in a pillow and put it through the tumble dryer for an hour, seems to have done the trick.


HAHA thats brilliant and potentially fatal to tumble dryers. Try baking in the oven its far less likely to destroy an expensive appliance.

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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/11/2011 :  20:56:48  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
if it's in a pillow case i can't see an issue with it?..........or am i having a blonde moment??

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gmac
The Scottish Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/11/2011 :  21:06:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gingerpony

if it's in a pillow case i can't see an issue with it?..........or am i having a blonde moment??



nope your having a ginger moment :P but I agree if its in pillow case should be fine


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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/11/2011 :  21:25:16  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
lol @G


(btw, to those that don't know me - i'm notginger........or a pony for that matter!)

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Jason_app
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
41 Posts

Posted - 22/11/2011 :  21:42:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
haha, it was absolutely fine. in an old pillow case that was for the bin anyway so completely sealed. The machine is filtered and they were all clean so no prob.

All back in the viv now and so much better......all dry :-)

Jase
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kayjosh
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
29 Posts

Posted - 22/11/2011 :  22:08:07  Show Profile  Visit kayjosh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jason_app

haha, it was absolutely fine. in an old pillow case that was for the bin anyway so completely sealed. The machine is filtered and they were all clean so no prob.

All back in the viv now and so much better......all dry :-)

Jase



Not sure yet if our tumble dryer will ever be the same Jason only time will tell....could be very expensive substrate lol
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Jason_app
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
41 Posts

Posted - 22/11/2011 :  22:46:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kayjosh

quote:
Originally posted by Jason_app

haha, it was absolutely fine. in an old pillow case that was for the bin anyway so completely sealed. The machine is filtered and they were all clean so no prob.

All back in the viv now and so much better......all dry :-)

Jase



Not sure yet if our tumble dryer will ever be the same Jason only time will tell....could be very expensive substrate lol


how many times have i fixed that dam tumble dryer now though...doing it again is no big deal lol x
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler

United Kingdom
6129 Posts

Posted - 23/11/2011 :  10:48:00  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gingerpony

lol @G


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Lies, all lies :P

Yeeah I use aspen as I am lazy and can't be bothere to dry substrates plus I would get screamed at if I even touch the tumble drier or cooker.



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Jason_app
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
41 Posts

Posted - 23/11/2011 :  12:24:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
using the orchid bark substrate is certainly more effort then just tipping in a bag of aspen. However if i realised i would need to dry it before putting mine in it could have been alot easier haha. In out in out lol. Still its in now and i think looks good as per first photo. Jase
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