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NiallP
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
48 Posts |
Posted - 21/11/2011 : 01:35:03
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Currently, my heat mat is on the side of my viv (it's glass) and I wanted to know whether it would be better to put it underneath the viv on the bottom?
However, if I put the heat mat on the bottom then it covers the whole of the viv, and I've read that you're only meant to cover up to 1/2 of the viv.
I'm a little confused |
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Simmy_82
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1272 Posts |
Posted - 21/11/2011 : 07:30:09
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You can put it on the bottom. Just don't put it all under the tank. Just sit the tank on half of it. |
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Okeetee Mick
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2308 Posts |
Posted - 21/11/2011 : 09:05:30
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quote: Originally posted by Simmy_82
You can put it on the bottom. Just don't put it all under the tank. Just sit the tank on half of it.
Or get a smaller mat |
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
4335 Posts |
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
10455 Posts |
Posted - 21/11/2011 : 20:12:46
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me too lol
setting the mat up on the side of the viv is for geckos, for snakes it should be on the bottom or underneath (depending on the sizes of the enclosure and heatmat) and the temps should be measured directly above the mat |
cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos
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NiallP
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
48 Posts |
Posted - 22/11/2011 : 16:13:17
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I went in the shop yesterday and I asked where to put the mat and the woman told me on the side, not underneath, she then rang an advisor and he also said on the side and not underneath. I'm really confused now because I have mine on the side and it keeps the warm end as warm as it should be, and the cold end is 21 degrees C |
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 22/11/2011 : 16:25:08
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They can be mounted on the side or the bottom the difference been snakes have lovely flat bellies designed to soak up residual heat from the ground to warm the snake up. Corn snakes dont bask, they sit on warm spots so thats why its recommended to have the mat underneath the snake, If its mounted on the side it is only heating the air and mats are really inefficient for that job, which means your snake is sat on cold substrate, with a little bit of warm air around it but the ventillation means that the air cycles out before it has any chance to do a decent job, this sort of thing is OK/more relevant for lizards etc which are only in contact with the ground at their feet but for a snake laying all on the ground its far better to just heat the ground.
And you'll find that 99.9% of all shops dont have a clue or are doing things as they were done 10, 15 even 20 years ago, as times change the hobby progresses and learns of better methods. |
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Edited by - lotabob on 22/11/2011 16:26:55 |
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NiallP
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
48 Posts |
Posted - 22/11/2011 : 16:35:24
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Well, I think I shall move it underneath then. I've read the 101 so I will leave an air gap, and should I only put a thin layer of substrate over the warm end and move over the cold end? |
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 22/11/2011 : 18:00:26
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Yeah a thin layer over the hot end, though if you put a lot over that end they'd soon work out to push it out of the way or even burrow under it, it just saves them the bother. |
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NiallP
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
48 Posts |
Posted - 22/11/2011 : 21:15:11
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Well when I'm home ill be doing that! I'll put the heat mat on something to insulate it, then put the viv over it (so there will be an air gap). Then I'll put a bit of aspen over it and about an inch at the cold end.
The bottom of my viv has like a black layer on it, will this result in better heat conduction? |
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NiallP
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
48 Posts |
Posted - 22/11/2011 : 23:54:56
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And it's done, Sylar seems a bit more active too, which is good! But that might be due to cause its night time! |
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 23/11/2011 : 00:22:09
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Viv? As in wooden box with sliding glass doors or faun/Rub as in plastic box with lid?
If its a viv dont waste your time putting the heat mat outside, wood is a very good insulator so the mat need to be inside to do any good at all. Though you need a thermostat, if you dont have one dont use the heat mat at all until you do. |
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NiallP
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
48 Posts |
Posted - 23/11/2011 : 01:54:50
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A glass viv, and I have a stat :) |
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