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marc_sg
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/11/2011 :  19:24:36  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I really like the of these and i was wondering ehat genes i need to get this morpj. ive got a strip and an amel but whats the missing links and what stages in the beeding project gives you these gourgous snakes


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY

gmac
The Scottish Admin

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Posted - 17/11/2011 :  19:33:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
cinder :P

and not really sure what you mean by stages in breeding. You need to breed a pair of snakes with these genes to have a chance of producing one


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marc_sg
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/11/2011 :  20:13:25  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
By Stages i mean have i got to breed amel to cinder then breed the off spring to a strip then breed back again


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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gmac
The Scottish Admin

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Posted - 17/11/2011 :  20:23:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
amel to cinder gives you normals het amel cinder, if you pair that with the stripe you will get normals het stripe ph amel cinder. there is no guarantee you would get your snake from breeding that way.

you would have to breed your amel x cinder, then pair 2 ofspring and hope you get amel cinder from that, then take the amel cinder x stripe and you get normals het amel cinder stripe then breed 2 ofspring and hope you get an amel cinder stripe, but the odds from that are 1 in 64 chance per egg on that combo coming out.

Is best trying to get snakes with the genes you need rather than trying to produce these from single trait animals.


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marc_sg
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Posted - 17/11/2011 :  20:30:19  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Yeah but i like a challenge lol. i like filling that it pays off at the end. just all the hatd work and effort. if it pays off ill be one happy boy lol


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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vetdebbie
Hatchling

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Posted - 17/11/2011 :  21:32:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Start with cinder to amel stripe - will be much easier,
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marc_sg
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/11/2011 :  21:52:23  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Ok well ill have to breed my strip to amel then breed that back to the stripe then get a cinder


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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eeji
The Morph Master

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Posted - 18/11/2011 :  13:34:23  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by marc_sg

Ok well ill have to breed my strip to amel then breed that back to the stripe then get a cinder



That will only give you possible het amels so you'd need to breed the babies to each other to recover both amel and stripe


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marc_sg
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Posted - 18/11/2011 :  17:33:48  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
when you say poss het amel, does that mean they will be normals, het stripe and ph amel


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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eeji
The Morph Master

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Posted - 18/11/2011 :  23:19:14  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
stripe x amel will give all normal het stripe and amel. If you breed one of these to your stripe you should get approx half normal het stripe ph amel and half stripe ph amel.

if you breed two of the normal het stripe and amel together it will be approx 9/16 normal ph stripe amel, 3/16 amel ph stripe, 3/16 stripe ph amel, 1/16 amel stripe


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marc_sg
Sub Adult

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Posted - 19/11/2011 :  13:46:01  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I forgot my stripe is het amel het anery


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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marc_sg
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
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Posted - 19/11/2011 :  14:16:08  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I forgot my stripe is het amel het anery


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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