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marie2011
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/10/2011 :  23:08:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thank u very much 4 all your help + kind words, i cant tell if its still alive now
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gmac
The Scottish Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/10/2011 :  23:11:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
to be honest with you, a trip to the vets will more than likely be pointless I think it has passed the point of no return. Especially if it isnt even moving now.

If it isnt moving at all now is more than likely going to pass very shortly if it hasnt already, Im sorry :(





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Kehhlyr
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Posted - 12/10/2011 :  23:13:28  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I'm sorry, but this might sound like a really daft question, but has it had any water??
What substrate (bedding) were you told to use as well??

Also, I agree with Gmac again, regardless of the outcome it's not all your fault, the shop should've given much better info. The fact that snakes are fascinating creatures should hopefully only encourage you to have a good research and see if you can try again in the future, we're here to help so any questions we will happily answer for you as well.

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marie2011
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/10/2011 :  23:19:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes its had water. it was wood chip. i think its dead. i wont b tryin again after this 1. i used 2 b scared of em but i got used 2 it 4my son + quite liked it but im obviously not a snake person
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Sta~ple
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/10/2011 :  23:21:00  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gmac

In all honesty research is good, however you TRUSTED a shop that sold reptiles therefore expected them to give you proper advice, as I would. It is not all your fault.

Hoping this doesnt put your son off snakes they can be fascinating pets, and you now know where we are.




I agree with this as that is exactly whet I did for 10 years, trust my petshop.

Snakes do go down hill very rapidly. I had a hatchling that was completely fine the morning I checked in, at 3 it was how you first described your snake,and then by 8 it had passed away :( I don't think a vet could do anything for it now as sad as it may seem

I hope it doenst put you off in the furture, they are great pets and not hard or difficult or expensive to look after once you get the right equipment. I'm guessing the petshop rather that selling the much needed important equipment sold you expensive equipment that corns don't need. I wish this forum existed 11 years ago when I fist got my snake (and that I had internet back then lol)



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Kehhlyr
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Posted - 12/10/2011 :  23:28:56  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
If you're unsure about trying them again, then let us change your mind.
We can talk you through everything, and you wouldn't be the first person we've helped over the course of a few months to get a setup perfect before getting a snake.
There could be many reasons why it was like that (as well as the overheating), the shop could've conceivably fobbed off a poorly snake as well. We've heard of that happening in the past as well.

-=Kehhlyr - The Resident Loon

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Sta~ple
qeeun speler

United Kingdom
6129 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2011 :  23:35:23  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
You shouldn't let this bad experience effect you, corns are normally very hardy creatures, I have never had to take all 4 of mine to a vet and I've had them 11 years. Just the unfortunate can happen sometimes :( naturally or otherwise.



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a33272
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Posted - 12/10/2011 :  23:38:47  Show Profile  Visit a33272's Homepage  Send a33272 an AOL message  Click to see a33272's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
hi.

can only echo whats been said regarding pet shops, very raely find one that does give out proper advice. an most rarely seam to insist on thermostats an say u just need a mat, a basic thermostat it only £20. its all them trying to keep set up cost down to encourage a sale.

as for your partner hmmm well yeah, sounds like someone has his priorities all mixed, next time he says he need the doctor tell him to f'off.

i hope you do wake up an snake is better, but only time will tell



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marie2011
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/10/2011 :  23:46:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
think its dead how else can i tell? i just been holdin it 4quite sum time + it aint moved. my partner wont take me the vets coz he said it only cost me 50quid 2 buy it + it wud cost that 4the vets + that its 2 late coz its dyin. i will ask my son if he wants a new 1 + if he does i will b bk 2 c wot i need 2 do
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gmac
The Scottish Admin

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Posted - 12/10/2011 :  23:49:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
it is most likely dead if there is no reaction from it now.

Unfortunately vets can be expensive but is part and parcel of owning a pet.



Edited by - gmac on 12/10/2011 23:50:19
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paulie78
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/10/2011 :  23:52:09  Show Profile  Visit paulie78's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What a tragic thread grr at bloody useless petshops so glad i researched before buying Eddie if id listened to the pet shops in town i likely wouldnt have bothered with a thermostat poor lil snake isnt it a safe bet to assume if shops are telling people that a thermostat is not nessacery that they arent using them themselves surely thats enough to get the rspca to investigate ?

Marie if you decide to get another the guys on this forum will help you 100 percent and point you in the direction so this doesnt happen again everyone makes mistakes especially when they are fed a load of useless and inaccurate info from the off


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marie2011
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/10/2011 :  00:04:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
iv got a good mind 2 go bk 2 the pet shop + ask em bout y they didnt tell me everythin wen i asked em how i looked after it. i only got him bout 3 or 4 months
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paulie78
Fully Grown Corn

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Posted - 13/10/2011 :  00:10:53  Show Profile  Visit paulie78's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You totally should Marie they should have reccomended you to get a thermostat straight away some places will tell you that they are unessacery and uneeded but for the cost (around £25 depending on make model etc) it gives you peace of mind i very nearly didnt get one when i bought my first snake because 3 outta the 4 reptiles stockists here told me i didnt need one!


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Sta~ple
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Posted - 13/10/2011 :  00:13:27  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by marie2011

think its dead how else can i tell? i just been holdin it 4quite sum time + it aint moved. my partner wont take me the vets coz he said it only cost me 50quid 2 buy it + it wud cost that 4the vets + that its 2 late coz its dyin. i will ask my son if he wants a new 1 + if he does i will b bk 2 c wot i need 2 do



£50 is quite a lot for a basic corn... unless its a super special colour. Maybe wait until the morning and see if your unsure. If it as dead then you can bury it in the morning with some light at least then.

If you did get another one would as I do agree I think it is far too late for the little guy, any issues do have to be seen by a vet. It is rare a snake ever has to go to the vet. Snakes do not act how you describe unless they are on deaths door. Things such as respiratory infections, or anything that doesn't seem visually right, has to be seen by a vet as they can be cured and if they are not, if could be a very long painful death that could easily be prevented. As I have said none have mine have ever needed to go to the vet, cats have plenty of times as have the dogs! I do have money put aside though incase anything happens to the snakes as I'm sure you do with your other pets.

Paulie, the RSPCA won't give a ****e bluntly. Complaining to the local council is the only real thing you can do.



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marie2011
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/10/2011 :  00:13:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i asked him twice if there was anythin else i needed + he said no + i asked him how i look after him + iv done everythin he told me 2. what am i meant 2 do with him now hes gone?
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gmac
The Scottish Admin

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Posted - 13/10/2011 :  00:20:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
do you have a garden or flower bed you could bury it.


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Kehhlyr
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/10/2011 :  00:27:41  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Leave it in the cool end for tonight as well, in the morning you'll know if it is dead as it's eyes will likely have sunk in and rigor mortis will be setting in.
The last thing you wanna do is potentially bury it while it's still half alive.

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Sta~ple
qeeun speler

United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/10/2011 :  00:33:03  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I did leave mine over night just to check if he was still alive too when this happened to me, plus I had never seen a dead snake before so didn't know what to expect, I was half hoping he'd spring back to life though. I know this might sound a bit morbid but he wont start to smell yet if hes dead from experience, he shouldn't in the morning either



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paulie78
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/10/2011 :  00:40:10  Show Profile  Visit paulie78's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Poor snake it makes me soo cross how can shops get away with it its not like its an optional acessory its a basic safegaurd if you dont have a passion to keep and sell animals properly and dont ecnourage your customers to do the same then you have absolutely no bloody right to be selling them in the first place!

Ive seen similar occurences with tropical fish countless times and it really gets my back up that shops just seem to have an attitude that the animals are "stock" and to lose a few here or there is not a problem



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marie2011
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/10/2011 :  00:56:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i have placed it on the cool part. how do u no wen a snake has respiratory problems? he seemed fine b4 i went 2 work at 3 i was only gone 8hrs
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