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Kittypuss85
Hatchling

United Kingdom
128 Posts

Posted - 20/09/2011 :  23:13:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What ever I put in the corn calculator it come out with normal every time, just het for something. What am I doing wrong?
Im not planning to breed for a long time but was just curious
I have 1 Carolina male - GP on here suggested he was probably a motley
And I have 1 blood red het lavender hypo

Then I have 4 females
1 snow 1 amel 1 anery and 1 peter

What could I get from that lot?

Thanks

gmac
The Scottish Admin

United Kingdom
5319 Posts

Posted - 20/09/2011 :  23:26:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
carolina motley x snow = normals het amel anery motley
carolina motley x amel = normals het amel motley
carolina motley x anery = normals het anery motley
carolina motley x pewter = normals het diffused charcoal motley

blood red het lavender hypo x snow = normals het amel anery diffused 50% het lavender hypo
blood red het lavender hypo x amel = normals het amel diffused 50% het lavender hypo
blood red het lavender hypo x anery = normals het anery diffused 50% het lavender hypo
blood red het lavender hypo x pewter = normals het diffused charcoal 50% het lavender hypo and diffused het charcoal 50% het lavender hypo




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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
10455 Posts

Posted - 21/09/2011 :  07:55:56  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
as above ^^ unless the boys have any hets that match the girls..........

cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos

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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/09/2011 :  08:15:25  Show Profile  Click to see kdlang's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
As has already been said. Although looking at your sig, McQueen doesn't look motley to me as you can see black belly chequers.

4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
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Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire

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Kittypuss85
Hatchling

United Kingdom
128 Posts

Posted - 21/09/2011 :  09:11:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So if I were to breed them, chances are I'd only get normals, lots and lots of normals? Or could some come out just looking like 1 or the other of theirbpafents. Eg could blood red x pewter make blood red & pewter separately or would the all just come out normal?
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Mamma
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/09/2011 :  11:02:56  Show Profile  Visit Mamma's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kdlang

As has already been said. Although looking at your sig, McQueen doesn't look motley to me as you can see black belly chequers.



I 2nd this. Romeo is motley and his belly has no marks on it at all. Pure white xx



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gingerpony
Queen Bee

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Posted - 21/09/2011 :  12:30:41  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kittypuss85

I have 1 Carolina male - GP on here suggested he was probably a motley

not sure where or when i've ever said that!
he's definitely not!

cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos

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Kittypuss85
Hatchling

United Kingdom
128 Posts

Posted - 21/09/2011 :  14:19:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry, my mistake, I just checked back. You said he was possibly Hypo (not motley) my bad! :-D
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gmac
The Scottish Admin

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Posted - 21/09/2011 :  19:04:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
your bloodred x pewter wont make bloodreds and pewters unless the bloodred is het for charcoal. You will get normals and some diffused from this pairing.

corn snakes genes are recessive so requires both snakes to carry the same genes to provide morphs.


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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 21/09/2011 :  20:41:41  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
bloodred x pewter = 100% diffused het charcoal

any other pairing with what you have got will give you normals het for the parents morphs


Forum - Guide to Cornsnake Morphs - Punnett Square Calculator - Breeder Directory

Edited by - eeji on 21/09/2011 20:43:24
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gmac
The Scottish Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/09/2011 :  20:47:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
oops my bad


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Kittypuss85
Hatchling

United Kingdom
128 Posts

Posted - 21/09/2011 :  20:52:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks everyone for your input, it's good to know. Mainly I just love keeping the snakes, but who knows in a few years time, i might consider breeding.
:-)
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jonoandapril
Hatchling

United Kingdom
171 Posts

Posted - 22/09/2011 :  17:29:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
right, im a bit slow on the morph thing. Am i right in understanding that with all the parings afformentioned if you were to breed one of the off-spring back to its parent (the kid being a het, right?) THEN you'd get morphs? im really struggling to get my head round genetics lol

1x amel corn (tango)
1x carolina corn (pepsi)
1x carpet python (butch)
1x normal royal (rachel)
1x bumblebee royal
wishlist: abbotts okeetee female, crawl cay boa, emerald tree boa
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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 22/09/2011 :  19:14:51  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
yes thats correct, or you can breed the babies to each other


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Kittypuss85
Hatchling

United Kingdom
128 Posts

Posted - 22/09/2011 :  19:38:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wouldn't that be snaked incest? Cause deformities?
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!

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Posted - 22/09/2011 :  20:41:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kittypuss85

Wouldn't that be snaked incest? Cause deformities?



yes, and no.

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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 22/09/2011 :  23:47:19  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
no and no - snakes don't understand the concept of 'family' :D


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jonoandapril
Hatchling

United Kingdom
171 Posts

Posted - 25/09/2011 :  12:27:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ah, gotcha, cheers. i did think of the whole incest thing at first, but it seems to be the done thing with the breeders. did see a site on deformitys with royals (think it was a pertic morph, not just in general) if they are bred back to much. whats a safe limit with corns?

1x amel corn (tango)
1x carolina corn (pepsi)
1x carpet python (butch)
1x normal royal (rachel)
1x bumblebee royal
wishlist: abbotts okeetee female, crawl cay boa, emerald tree boa
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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/09/2011 :  18:49:49  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
as with any animal (humans included) the more inbreeding, the more chance of 'bad traits' coming to light whether they are heterozygous recessive becoming homozygous or they maybe polygenetic that become more apparent (just as line breeding eg reverse okeetee does)


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