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btcc11
having a break...
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 Posted - 29/08/2011 : 22:59:16
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Okay, obvious statement I here you say!
You're completely right but I was thinking if your snake lets say butter morph escaped wouldn't it die much easier without the proper camouflage?
And if it did survive by chance what if it bred with other corns and there was a population of wild butters? Couldn't that potentially destroy corn snakes in the wild by making them more bright? |
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
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Posted - 29/08/2011 : 23:08:04
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not sure we have corns roaming about our streets to actually mate with each other. Also if they bred with the wild ones they wouldnt produce butters the would be normals so would then have to meet wild corns with the same hets.
Also pretty sure the palmetto corn was a wild caught specimen so there are morphs / non normal coloured corns in the wild.
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btcc11
having a break...
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29/08/2011 : 23:14:58
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| Oh, Thanks for the info :) |
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Mamma
Fully Grown Corn
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29/08/2011 : 23:52:09
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all the single trait morphs are naturally occurring and although survival in the wild may be compromised by 'different' colouring or pattern they have been bred by us to continue those traits. Combinations of recessive morphs are not so natural because the chances of two individuals with multiple matching hets is very slim.
so you're half right ;) |
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btcc11
having a break...
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/08/2011 : 02:37:58
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| Yay half right! |
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/08/2011 : 10:04:14
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| I did write a big long speech but cut it, hope I don't sound dumb! Why are most the wild cornsnakes a reddy orange colour, I mean, is there a lot of plants and rocks in merkin land that are reddy orange as you often see wild photos of them in trees against bright green...to me it seems virtually any colour corn has almost the same surviual chance because of this. |
   
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btcc11
having a break...
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/08/2011 : 15:51:07
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| Blends in with the corn. |
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Simmy_82
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/08/2011 : 16:05:20
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| Arent they called Corn Snakes because they are generally found around Corn Stores (where rodents are mostly found). They red and orange colours i imagine come red dirt in those regions (generally means high iron content)? |
 
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/08/2011 : 18:11:21
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... I do know why they are called corn snakes...Most corn I've seen is a shade of yellow. Although the shade of the dirt does make more sense, didn't think of that XD plus with the op's example of the butter morphs, they would blend in better with the corn :P
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Spreebok
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/08/2011 : 19:00:20
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Originally posted by Sta~ple
... I do know why they are called corn snakes...Most corn I've seen is a shade of yellow.
Think it's because they were mostly (or thought to be mostly) found in and around the corn fields in north America (think it's north lol) where they would eat the mice and such.
Not as funny as the milk snake, which (As far as I know/have read) was named because people believed they would drink milk from cows udders  |
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
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Posted - 30/08/2011 : 20:54:18
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another possible reason for their naming is the ventral appearance (belly) of a wild-type corn resembling what we call a 'corn on the cob'
and as for 'Corn snake morphs aren't natural' being an obvious statement, surely the opposite is true? base-morphs in particular certainly are natural! where do wyou think they came from initially? a test tube?
all selectively breeding for double-, triple-, quadruple-trait morphs has done is speed up natural evolution. the chances of finding another morph to mate with in the wild is relatively slim compared to human intervention matching morphs at will |
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eeji
The Morph Master
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
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Posted - 30/08/2011 : 21:33:24
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| when you see the old cobs with yellow, orange, brown, black chequers..........like they have in american movies......and presumably in america lol, NOT like the ones from the supermarkets here or from KFC! |
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
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Posted - 30/08/2011 : 21:45:56
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eej, how can that not look like belly chequers???
but why aren't they called 'maize snakes'??  |
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btcc11
having a break...
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/08/2011 : 23:15:22
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and as for 'Corn snake morphs aren't natural' being an obvious statement, surely the opposite is true? base-morphs in particular certainly are natural! where do wyou think they came from initially? a test tube?
You're so right, I hadn't thought of that. |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/08/2011 : 23:24:09
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| Also something you may notice, albinos and other less camoflaged snakes tend to be more aggressive, more defensive because they are easily seen. |
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btcc11
having a break...
United Kingdom
35 Posts |
Posted - 30/08/2011 : 23:26:27
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| I wouldn't know I'v never owned/seen an albino except for online, I'm wondering why they call them albinos because they're not completely white. |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
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Posted - 31/08/2011 : 08:47:47
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| albino doesnt mean its white, just that its lacking a pigment. Technically an anery is an albino too, sometimes refered to as a black albino. |
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btcc11
having a break...
United Kingdom
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Posted - 31/08/2011 : 11:46:51
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| Wow I've learn so much these past two days :D I'm feeling like a snake expert :P |
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Corn snake morphs aren't natural.
