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Red123
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2030 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2011 :  18:57:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been thinking about the colouring of the carolina/wild/normal corn snake. In captivity they vary greatly in colouring but do they have such a variation in colour in their natural habitat? I am a great fan of all animals in their natural wild type colouring whether its a snake, lizard, rabbit or whatever. I would like to know just how close the colouring of the captive corns are to their ancestors. Thanks.

Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),

Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)

1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)
Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)

0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.

Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.



Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family

gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
10455 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2011 :  19:47:50  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
as far as i'm aware the wild-types are just that - the colourings you'd get in the wild

obviously under 'wild type' are various different localities with specific colouring eg. miami's with a grey background and orangey-red saddles

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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!

United Kingdom
2901 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2011 :  13:14:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Genetic normals are just that. There will be variations in the wild, the same way there are variations in captivity, no two snakes are exactly the same, being in captivity isnt going to have an impact on what a 'normal' looks like. There are even colour morphs in the wild, after all, thats essentially where they all came from, someone found something that looked different, and bred it to see if it could be produced again, same way snakes in the wild have bred and produced colour morphs, mostly albinos, producing a quadruple morph in the wild is gonna take a little more than luck!

Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
10455 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2011 :  13:36:28  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
wasn't the recently 'discovered' palmetto a WC snake?

cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos

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Red123
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2030 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2011 :  08:45:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I suppose some irresponsible owners may set their captive corns free (obviously not in this country) if they no longer wanted them and this would also lead to different morphs being in the wild and maybe altering the overall colouring of the wild corn?

Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),

Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)

1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)
Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)

0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.

Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.



Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler

United Kingdom
6129 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2011 :  16:12:22  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Red123

I suppose some irresponsible owners may set their captive corns free (obviously not in this country) if they no longer wanted them and this would also lead to different morphs being in the wild and maybe altering the overall colouring of the wild corn?



What do you mean not in this country? Many people here dop set them free and they are living quite well in England in the wild!



A very special super, duper thanks for K :3
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2030 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2011 :  18:18:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Really? What areas of the UK are you talking about?

Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),

Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)

1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)
Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)

0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.

Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.



Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family
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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
10455 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2011 :  20:47:19  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
just think how many 'lost snake' threads there are (not just here on TCS) and how many do actually survive out there!!

cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos

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Red123
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2030 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2011 :  21:47:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This would not affect the colour of the true wild corn though would it as a population of wild corns would have to already be established for it to have effect surely.

Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),

Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)

1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)
Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)

0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.

Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.



Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler

United Kingdom
6129 Posts

Posted - 14/08/2011 :  08:22:53  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
There's apprently a the biggest population in Cornwall/Devon, probably survive there better as it is warmer there. Bete there loads in London though too!

It may effect the colour of "wild corns" in the UK but we'll ahve to see. Heck I bet if you gave it several hundrend years a new species/subspecies would emerge.



A very special super, duper thanks for K :3

Edited by - Sta~ple on 14/08/2011 08:24:12
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