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Spreebok
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1135 Posts

Posted - 21/07/2011 :  00:05:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So, three people have mistaken Rimmer for an Okeetee, which has me curious. As far as I know, he's carolina, but looking at some of the pictures on Ians Vivarium, he does look like he has some Okeetee traits, even if just a tiny bit!
So anyway, any thoughts? I'm not expecting him to be anything other than Carolina, but if he is anything else, I'll be all like whoo \o/

He's about 7 - 8 months and 37g (he is tiiiny!)

Belly is a stark white and black, which goes into orange with the checkers.


You can see the orange half of his belly up around my hand


With Flash


Without
His neck backwards


Day he Shed


His side


Head and neck


Heads and neck 2


Whole Body


Tail


More saddles


Head minus nose


Hope thats good for you all! I wont be dissapointed if he is just a carolina, I just think 3 separate people thinking he's Okeetee is a bit interesting x3
Need anymore pics, do say!

Katie.Dublin
Sub Adult

Ireland
1560 Posts

Posted - 21/07/2011 :  00:29:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
At first glance i would have said Carolina too but i do see what you mean reg the Okeetee traits. Im Sure somebody will give you a proper answer shortly!


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0.1 hypo Motley - Spunky
0.1 MBK - Tequila. RIP
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Spreebok
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1135 Posts

Posted - 21/07/2011 :  01:01:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Katie.Dublin

At first glance i would have said Carolina too but i do see what you mean reg the Okeetee traits. Im Sure somebody will give you a proper answer shortly!



He's just a mash up probably haha x3
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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
10455 Posts

Posted - 21/07/2011 :  12:14:39  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i'd expect a true okeetee to have more black/thicker banding round the saddles but he's definitely okeetee-ish

cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos

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Spreebok
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1135 Posts

Posted - 21/07/2011 :  12:48:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gingerpony

i'd expect a true okeetee to have more black/thicker banding round the saddles but he's definitely okeetee-ish



The banding is certainly getting better with each shed, so fingers crossed he'll continue that way! Okeetee is my second favourite morph! (Abbotts Okeetee being first, my friend is getting a breeding pair soon, mwahahaha)
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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 23/07/2011 :  19:27:36  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
the thing with okeetee is that it isn't a morph, 'just' a nice looking normal (also not a morph) so all down to natural variations and how different people interpret those variations.

There are the 'locality purists' that will say an okeetee is only an okeetee if it is from a certain area (Okeetee Hunt Club, SC) or descended from stock originating in that area, but most will say anything resembling the characteristic bright red and orange with thick black borders to be one.


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Spreebok
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1135 Posts

Posted - 23/07/2011 :  21:26:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eeji

the thing with okeetee is that it isn't a morph, 'just' a nice looking normal (also not a morph) so all down to natural variations and how different people interpret those variations.

There are the 'locality purists' that will say an okeetee is only an okeetee if it is from a certain area (Okeetee Hunt Club, SC) or descended from stock originating in that area, but most will say anything resembling the characteristic bright red and orange with thick black borders to be one.



So, you reckon he's just a nice looking normal then? :)
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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 24/07/2011 :  00:32:25  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
a very very very nice normal! He's so clean looking I'd be really tempted to test breed him with a hypo just out of curiosity :)


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Spreebok
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1135 Posts

Posted - 24/07/2011 :  02:05:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eeji

a very very very nice normal! He's so clean looking I'd be really tempted to test breed him with a hypo just out of curiosity :)


Thankyou! I chose him because he was sorta different from the more browny coloured normals they had in at the time!
And a hypo eh? What would that be to potentially prove? :) (I'm terrible at genetics, my knowledge goes as far as anery and amel = snow haha!)
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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 24/07/2011 :  17:05:43  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
just to see if the brightness is down to hypo being there


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Spreebok
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1135 Posts

Posted - 24/07/2011 :  17:25:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eeji

just to see if the brightness is down to hypo being there


Ah, I gotcha! Well, in 2 years and a bit then, I'll be bugging my friend, she's bound to have a lady hypo in the collection somewhere! Thankyou for the reply Eeji :)
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dejvid
Snake Mite

Slovenia
36 Posts

Posted - 26/07/2011 :  21:56:11  Show Profile  Visit dejvid's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Anyway, he is wery beutiful!

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Spreebok
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1135 Posts

Posted - 26/07/2011 :  22:11:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dejvid

Anyway, he is wery beutiful!



Thankyou!
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