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                 Karakal 
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                       Posted - 28/06/2011 :  21:30:40
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       Since having Claude I always assumed he was a garden variety corn, but my other half came to visit him earlier today and said that he wasn't normal corn colours and thought he was a caramel? I say my OH is talking bull, personally, but for the sake of argument could someone confirm if he is a normal or something else? If he's a normal is he some kind of wild phase etc etc?
  He has black checkers on the underside of his throat, down the rest of his underbelly they are all a browny colour like his body, not the saddles/spots.
  Normal lighting, he looks like this in daylight:
  
  With flash he looks a lot more orange hence my assumption of normal:
  
  Thank you for taking the time to read and hopefully put an end to the debate between my other half!! X | 
                     
                    
                        Lurking in: Brighton, East Sussex 0.0.2 Cornsnake (Claude, Normal | Tiz, Ghost) 0.3.0 Equines (Keira, ShireX | Katie, Highland | Skippy, Newforest) 0.1.0 Chickens (Borelo, AracuanaX) 0.0.1 Goldfish (Eiji) | 
                     
                   
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                 tordyjo 
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                       Posted - 28/06/2011 :  21:37:34
                        
                        
                      
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                      |  he looks like a carolina hun, same colours as mine | 
                     
                    
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                 Karakal 
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                       Posted - 28/06/2011 :  21:42:35
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                      |  Cheers! :3 Can tell the man he's a fool again! Whoot! | 
                     
                    
                        Lurking in: Brighton, East Sussex 0.0.2 Cornsnake (Claude, Normal | Tiz, Ghost) 0.3.0 Equines (Keira, ShireX | Katie, Highland | Skippy, Newforest) 0.1.0 Chickens (Borelo, AracuanaX) 0.0.1 Goldfish (Eiji) | 
                     
                    
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                 gingerpony 
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                       Posted - 29/06/2011 :  07:30:17
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                      |  from the first pic i'd have said caramel too | 
                     
                    
                        cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos
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                 kdlang 
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                       Posted - 29/06/2011 :  08:03:11
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                      |  From the first pic I would have said caramel too | 
                     
                    
                        4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley) 0.1.0 cat - Kizzy 1.0.0 Dog - Dobbie Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire
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                 ntbryenton-rochard 
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                       Posted - 29/06/2011 :  12:38:45
                        
                        
                      
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                      |  I don't know what he is but he is lovely! | 
                     
                    
                            1.2.0 kids (Joshua-14, Katie-6 Holly-3)  1.0.0 Corn snake (Amazon-16 months)  1.0.0 Whites tree frog (Froggy-unknown age but owned for 3 years) 0.1.0 Dog (Sophie-11 years) 1.0.0 Cat (Charlie-9 years) 1.0.0 Guineapig (Rox-8 months) 0.1.0 Rabbit (Snowball-3 years)  | 
                     
                    
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                 Karakal 
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                       Posted - 29/06/2011 :  13:21:16
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       Aww noes! Confusion sort of returns? I had to ask as I had a peek on the morph guide on ian vivarium and right n the caramel page there is a very similar looking snake that's been taken with a flash photo! Confusion reigns supreme! He really isn't as bright a colour in daylight though :/
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                        Lurking in: Brighton, East Sussex 0.0.2 Cornsnake (Claude, Normal | Tiz, Ghost) 0.3.0 Equines (Keira, ShireX | Katie, Highland | Skippy, Newforest) 0.1.0 Chickens (Borelo, AracuanaX) 0.0.1 Goldfish (Eiji) | 
                     
                    
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                 ptmbradley 
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                       Posted - 29/06/2011 :  14:01:05
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       looks caramel to me too rather than a normal, but then I am a bit useless recognising all the different morphs out there! lol   | 
                     
                    
                        Corns: 1.1 Anery, 1.1 Butter, 1.0 Carolina, 0.1 Hypo, 1.1 Snow, 1.0 Sunkissed Boas: 0.1 Arabesque, 1.0 Brazilian Rainbow, 0.1 Crawl Cay, 1.1 Hogg Island X, 0.1 Hypo Hogg, 0.1 Kahl Albino (poss coral)
 
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                 FiestaSTLou 
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                       Posted - 29/06/2011 :  14:23:28
                        
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                      |  first pic he looks caramel, 2nd he looks normal lol i can see y ur confused haha! could u try get someone with a fancy snazz camera to take a high res pic? | 
                     
                    
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                 Karakal 
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                       Posted - 29/06/2011 :  19:27:04
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       xD I know! When my OH told me what he thought I went straight to Ians Vivarium to look at morphs and first thought my OH was way off until I saw this photo on the owner submissions on the caramel page! http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/species/elaphe_guttata/caramel/images/caramel-m05.jpg Then I was like.. Oh.. Well.. Now I really am confused!! He's due some food in a couple of days and is getting a bit more active during the day so I'll scoop him out and try and get a much clearer daylight photo of him. He only comes up seriously orange in flash-photos! :/
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                        Lurking in: Brighton, East Sussex 0.0.2 Cornsnake (Claude, Normal | Tiz, Ghost) 0.3.0 Equines (Keira, ShireX | Katie, Highland | Skippy, Newforest) 0.1.0 Chickens (Borelo, AracuanaX) 0.0.1 Goldfish (Eiji) | 
                     
                    
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                 Karakal 
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                       Posted - 04/07/2011 :  17:50:09
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       I come with more pictures! SLightly better ones, I hope of my two year old! :/
 
   His backside and his front end:
   Ventral:
  
  Thanks again for having a peek! :D | 
                     
                    
                        Lurking in: Brighton, East Sussex 0.0.2 Cornsnake (Claude, Normal | Tiz, Ghost) 0.3.0 Equines (Keira, ShireX | Katie, Highland | Skippy, Newforest) 0.1.0 Chickens (Borelo, AracuanaX) 0.0.1 Goldfish (Eiji) | 
                     
                    
                       Edited by - Karakal on 04/07/2011  18:31:59 | 
                     
                    
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                 mikerichards 
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                       Posted - 04/07/2011 :  20:52:56
                        
                        
                      
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                      |  could be caramel, but not from that last pic, certainly hypo though, pics are dodgy though, better to see in the flesh! | 
                     
                    
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                 Karakal 
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                       Posted - 05/07/2011 :  19:03:56
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       Haha, he likes his air of mystery, apparently! Thank you very much for your input though, really do appreciate it! :) | 
                     
                    
                        Lurking in: Brighton, East Sussex 0.0.2 Cornsnake (Claude, Normal | Tiz, Ghost) 0.3.0 Equines (Keira, ShireX | Katie, Highland | Skippy, Newforest) 0.1.0 Chickens (Borelo, AracuanaX) 0.0.1 Goldfish (Eiji) | 
                     
                    
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