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Wendy
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 07/05/2011 : 23:55:49
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| I was checking this morn on my snake, noticed a swollen eye, it looks if filled with water, (well that what it looks like) I can see the eye moving inside. Background is I brought the snake 6 weeks ago, from pet shop so have no previous. Since with me has fed well, and shed 2 weeks ago. I did house him on aspen but now on kitchen roll (not sure if aspen can cause this) He last fed 3 days ago. Took him to vet, they said retained eye cap. But I have been looking at posts about retained eye caps and does not seem same to me. Sorry about lack photos, have some on my camera, but cannot seem to get em on here. |
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2011 : 00:21:18
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Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.
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Wendy
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
44 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2011 : 00:31:39
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sorry about the **** posting of photos, but new to this, need some advice before i go back vet on monday,
***edited for language by GP*** |
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Wendy
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
44 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2011 : 00:40:12
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Originally posted by lotabob
It depeds how long/how many eyecaps have been retained. A picture would help, http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14057 this is a guide to posting pictures.
thanks Bob, I followed your advice about posting photos. I think I may have over done it, hope some one can edit them for me. Sorry for the double posts. |
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2011 : 02:33:10
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Holy cow I've not seen anything like that before thats not on a fish.
I remember reading that a retained eyecap can lead to drainage problems in the ducts of the eye leading to a build up of fluid. Its not exclusively caused by eyecaps though, I think (and I'm digging deep for the info I read) it can be caused by infections in the mouth and head too. |
Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.
MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL http://www.youtube.com/user/alocheeky |
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
10455 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2011 : 08:03:29
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damage, infection, ulceration........maybe as a result of a retained eyecap but there's definitely something else going on there....
was the vet you saw an exotics vet? |
cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos
Location:Leeds/York/Selby area |
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Wendy
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
44 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2011 : 13:06:22
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Originally posted by gingerpony
damage, infection, ulceration........maybe as a result of a retained eyecap but there's definitely something else going on there....
was the vet you saw an exotics vet?
Vet is one I used for my tortoises, although I have not had any real health issues, before now. The say they have interest in exotics, that is why I questioned the advice. I have found an exotic vet that I am going to phone tomorrow for an appointment.
Meanwhile I have continued with moist hides, and keeping him on kitchen roll.
He is acting as if nothing is wrong, even came out when I fed the snake in rub next to him, was as if to say "where's is my food". |
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2011 : 13:40:02
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| You need to find out if they are a specialist reptile vet, I have an interest in reptiles but I'm no way a specialist if you get what I mean. There is a list of recommended specialists http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2340 there may be one close but if not your best bet is ask your local reptile shop, they will know who is the specialist in the area. |
Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.
MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL http://www.youtube.com/user/alocheeky |
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2011 : 13:47:51
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| Done a bit of digging and found a reptile vet in Plymouth http://www.seymourvets.co.uk/index.html |
Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.
MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL http://www.youtube.com/user/alocheeky |
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Wendy
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
44 Posts |
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Kehhlyr
ǝʞɐɔ sǝʌoן
United Kingdom
8173 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2011 : 14:19:54
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Or this one: http://www.companioncare.co.uk/plymouth.html
Companion care vets down this way are superb, I also believe one of them is on this forum, Hi Debbie *waves*.
When I first heard that Pets at Home were gonna be having a vets in them I was a bit dubious. But since having gone there multiple times with multiple animals I've found mine to be absolutely superb.
Poor Tom at my local had to take on the ferocious Chalkie for a health check a little while back before breeding. Typically she was a lovely normal snake then instead of the monster that she really is.  |
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Mamma
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
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josh9961
Hatchling
United Kingdom
381 Posts |
Posted - 13/05/2011 : 13:16:26
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| I had this problem with my first corn right after she shed, I was just calling the vet when I looked in her tank and it had gone back to normal. A year on, and it's not happened again, at the time I thought it was her trying to shed an eyecap or some thing! |
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0.1 Bci
1.0 Spur thighed Tortoise
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snowstripe420
Egg
Canada
81 Posts |
Posted - 14/05/2011 : 20:32:40
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/05/2011 : 16:31:56
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Thante
Hatchling
United Kingdom
301 Posts |
Posted - 21/05/2011 : 18:46:10
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Hi.
I have to say i've had a look at the photo and gained an instant personal interest in whats happening to your snake.
Although I don't want to scare you, as this could be something completely different. You might find it helpful to hear what happened to my snake.
Cherry, who was my first corn snake had what looks like almost the same problem. She was bought from a shop at Blakemere craft centre, a few months after coming home her eye started to swell,and get bigger full of clear liquid. There was no discomfort, mites, retained shed or other obvious problem, but it kept growing and growing.
Dispute running loads of tests on all sorts of thing from infections to blocked tear ducts no vet or specialist was able to work out what the problem was. They drained the eye of liquid and it went back to normal, the first time they did this it took almost a full month to return to its full enlarged size, at which point they drained it again. This process repeated for a number of months, however every time it was drained it took less time to return to its enlarged size. Until She was going from normal to Bug eye overnight. At this point the vets did some last ditch attempts to work out what was wrong, by which time it was so big it was causing her to bleed. The vets eventually concluded that it was a genetic problem as every test they ran came back clean, and they decided that to save her they must remove the eye.
So i now have a happy healthy one eyed snake.
I know that this is a hell of a horror story, and i really hope that your little one doesn't have the same thing, but i felt that it is only right to warn you of the possibilities.
If, god forbid, it is the same, and it is genetic then i am going to go out of my way to find out where these snakes are coming from and put a stop to the breeder producing them.
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0.1.0 Cherry - 09 Normal
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Wendy
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
44 Posts |
Posted - 23/05/2011 : 20:49:57
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[quote]Originally posted by Thante
Hi.
I have to say i've had a look at the photo and gained an instant personal interest in whats happening to your snake.
Although I don't want to scare you, as this could be something completely different. You might find it helpful to hear what happened to my snake.
Cherry, who was my first corn snake had what looks like almost the same problem. She was bought from a shop at Blakemere craft centre, a few months after coming home her eye started to swell,and get bigger full of clear liquid. There was no discomfort, mites, retained shed or other obvious problem, but it kept growing and growing.
Dispute running loads of tests on all sorts of thing from infections to blocked tear ducts no vet or specialist was able to work out what the problem was. They drained the eye of liquid and it went back to normal, the first time they did this it took almost a full month to return to its full enlarged size, at which point they drained it again. This process repeated for a number of months, however every time it was drained it took less time to return to its enlarged size. Until She was going from normal to Bug eye overnight. At this point the vets did some last ditch attempts to work out what was wrong, by which time it was so big it was causing her to bleed. The vets eventually concluded that it was a genetic problem as every test they ran came back clean, and they decided that to save her they must remove the eye.
So i now have a happy healthy one eyed snake.
I know that this is a hell of a horror story, and i really hope that your little one doesn't have the same thing, but i felt that it is only right to warn you of the possibilities.
If, god forbid, it is the same, and it is genetic then i am going to go out of my way to find out where these snakes are coming from and put a stop to the breeder producing them.
Wow, Thante, thanks for the post. I have been told there is nothing physically wrong with my snake, (apart from the eye) he has since shed so I now know, it is not a retained eye cap. No infections, etc, (that the vet can see. just seems to be a mystery) Snake has eaten every week, without any problem, And does not seem to be in any discomfort at all. I have been really worried.
Your mail has really helped me, so far spent I have £285 on different vets, trying to find what is wrong. The eye has not been drained at all, but does not seem to be much bigger than it was. The last vet said too keep an eye (no pun intended) on it, and bring him back if any change. This I intend to do, but will also let you know of any change.
I would like to thank you for posting this, I know it is a horror story but it sure has helped me.
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Kehhlyr
ǝʞɐɔ sǝʌoן
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/05/2011 : 22:00:33
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If you've had vets charge you that much without giving a proper diagnosis then I believe you are being fobbed off and are simply just giving the vets some beer tokens.
Any rep vet that saw that would have a better idea than "just bring him back if it changes". Imagine going to the doctors because your eye was like that and he said something similar. |
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Wendy
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
44 Posts |
Posted - 23/05/2011 : 22:51:42
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Originally posted by Kehhlyr
If you've had vets charge you that much without giving a proper diagnosis then I believe you are being fobbed off and are simply just giving the vets some beer tokens.
Any rep vet that saw that would have a better idea than "just bring him back if it changes". Imagine going to the doctors because your eye was like that and he said something similar.
I have seen 5 different vets, all charged, and examined the snake but could not give me a reason why the eye was swollen. I hope I am not giving them beer money, but they did not know why the eye was swollen. Said they had not seen this before. The snake has not got any worse, I do not know what to do. You seem more knowledgeable, what do you purpose I do? I need help with this. |
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Spreebok
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1135 Posts |
Posted - 23/05/2011 : 23:05:14
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| Maybe it would be worth ridding the problem completely and having the eye removed? I dunno if your snake is too small for surgery, but if it's not getting any better, it may be something to keep in mind. A bit last resort, I know :/ |
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Wendy
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
44 Posts |
Posted - 23/05/2011 : 23:18:31
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Originally posted by Spreebok
Maybe it would be worth ridding the problem completely and having the eye removed? I dunno if your snake is too small for surgery, but if it's not getting any better, it may be something to keep in mind. A bit last resort, I know :/
I honestly have no idea, snake has no tear duct, mouth/teeth problems, that so far has been detected. So far the vet has not advised removal of the eye, just to watch for any change. |
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