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tinamiles
Hatchling

United Kingdom
255 Posts

Posted - 30/03/2011 :  19:30:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi all!
My new Corn, fluffy, has always been fed inside his viv in the past by his previous owner. Id like to 'train' him so he'll eat outside of the viv+im after advice on how to do this quickly+successfully! I fed him last week when i first got him in his viv as a 1 off, but tonight ive taken him out+put him in his own large feeding tub+offered him the mouse! He definately knows its there, but wasnt taking it, so ive put the lid (with plenty of air holes) on+put the tub inside his viv ontop of the heat mat. im hoping the scent of his viv+the warmth will prompt him to eat.
Id eventually like him to associate the tub with food, as Blaze does.....so any advice on how??
Thanks
Tina x

1.1 Cornsnake: Fluffy and Blaze
1.0 Kenyan Sand Boa: Falcor
0.1 Bearded dragon: Chilli
1.1 Cats: Jackson and Mia
1.0 Fiance: Ade :)

lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 30/03/2011 :  19:37:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You can't train a snake unfortunately. They will either eat the food or they won't. Just give it time.

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tinamiles
Hatchling

United Kingdom
255 Posts

Posted - 30/03/2011 :  19:40:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
he's eaten the mouse he was left in the tub with in less than 10mins, so im gonna feed him this way next few feeds, then try offering in tub again! This way is fine, i just really dont want to feed in his viv on the substrate!

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1.0 Kenyan Sand Boa: Falcor
0.1 Bearded dragon: Chilli
1.1 Cats: Jackson and Mia
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 30/03/2011 :  19:51:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I feed my corn in a tub, he'd eat on a washing line (most of the time). I do think its better providing they will eat in a tub and you have the time.

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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5599 Posts

Posted - 30/03/2011 :  19:57:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Excellent,you've got off to a brill start with him.


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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5853 Posts

Posted - 30/03/2011 :  20:19:14  Show Profile  Click to see herriotfan's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Just keep feeding him how you did tonight. Won't take him too long to suss out the routine!


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tinamiles
Hatchling

United Kingdom
255 Posts

Posted - 31/03/2011 :  08:04:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
cheers guys! im happy he's feeding with me!!

1.1 Cornsnake: Fluffy and Blaze
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0.1 Bearded dragon: Chilli
1.1 Cats: Jackson and Mia
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Lucy1012
Hatchling

United Kingdom
127 Posts

Posted - 31/03/2011 :  09:18:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I too would like to try and feed Luna, in a seperate tub, just so there is less confusion about putting my hand in the viv being associated with feeding time, my concern is moving her back into the viv with a full tummy, i am worried that it might make her regurge...


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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3796 Posts

Posted - 31/03/2011 :  09:27:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The line of thinking that they will associate putting your hand in the viv is nonsense.

People worry that by feeding in the viv all the time they will get a bitey snake. But if you feed in a different tub all the time there is no reason why your snake wouldn't associate being taken out of its viv with feeding and still bite.

It amuses me how keepers apply that "logic" to in viv feeding, but not vice-versa.

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Mamma
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4494 Posts

Posted - 31/03/2011 :  09:38:55  Show Profile  Visit Mamma's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lucy1012

I too would like to try and feed Luna, in a seperate tub, just so there is less confusion about putting my hand in the viv being associated with feeding time, my concern is moving her back into the viv with a full tummy, i am worried that it might make her regurge...



I open the lid of the viv... and kinda hold the tub (slightly tipped) over it after Romeo is done. He just slithers back into his viv.



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Posted - 31/03/2011 :  09:46:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I now feed all mine inside the rubs they live in. It hasn't changed the way they behave towards me when I put my hand in to change water or to check them over. They seem to know the difference between me and a mouse! Even my king snake who is mental around food, does not strike at my hand when I put it inside his rub, yet if I wave a mouse inside it he strikes within seconds!
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Posted - 31/03/2011 :  09:49:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lucy1012

I too would like to try and feed Luna, in a seperate tub, just so there is less confusion about putting my hand in the viv being associated with feeding time, my concern is moving her back into the viv with a full tummy, i am worried that it might make her regurge...



It's ok to pick them up to put them back in the viv, I did it with mine, or you can tip the tub and just let them slide out the on their own or leave the feeding tub in the viv and let them get out in their own time.
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tinamiles
Hatchling

United Kingdom
255 Posts

Posted - 31/03/2011 :  12:25:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
it isnt the issue of him associating my hand with food that worries me...its the very slim chance of eating some substrate+suffering from impaction!

1.1 Cornsnake: Fluffy and Blaze
1.0 Kenyan Sand Boa: Falcor
0.1 Bearded dragon: Chilli
1.1 Cats: Jackson and Mia
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Posted - 31/03/2011 :  12:30:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tinamiles

it isnt the issue of him associating my hand with food that worries me...its the very slim chance of eating some substrate+suffering from impaction!



You could always put down a few sheets of kitchen roll to stop that or use a feeding tray/dish.
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Budaholic
Yearling

United Kingdom
689 Posts

Posted - 31/03/2011 :  15:03:13  Show Profile  Visit Budaholic's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Alice has always refused to eat outside of her viv. She always gets fed in a small rub placed in the viv, then it's removed once she slides off to her hiding spot.

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