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Haplopelma
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
7 Posts

Posted - 16/03/2011 :  15:05:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My female corn snake laid 14 eggs 3 days ago i've got the eggs in an incubator.

This is my 1st ever snake clutch and have a constant humidity level of 88% and temps fluctuate between 84 - 86f i can't seem to keep it at 85f as i don't use a thermostat

the eggs are not shrivelling or shrinking and are nice and white

just wondering if there is anything else i can do to make sure they do alright or am i at the mercy of nature now and just wait and see

Invalid User
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Posted - 16/03/2011 :  15:57:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would say you really need a stat. I have not incubated eggs yet so I don't know if it's too late now or not.

How are you reading the temps, are you using a digital thermometer?

Edit: also could you tell us more about how your incubator set up as it might help.

Edited by - Invalid User on 16/03/2011 15:58:47
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Haplopelma
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/03/2011 :  16:17:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Incubator is a polystyreene box, heatmat on base then packed with aspen eggs are in vermiculite in a big box to accomodate all the eggs and using a digital thermo / hydrometer
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oakleyman18
Yearling

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Posted - 16/03/2011 :  16:56:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sounds like humidities and temps are right on. Only thing left to consider is ventilation. Of course as Louise says, a thermostat is critical - you can't afford fluctuations if ambients change.



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gmac
The Scottish Admin

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Posted - 16/03/2011 :  17:15:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Your incubator sounds fine but i would get a pulse stat to keep a constant temp.


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Haplopelma
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/03/2011 :  17:48:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks

having a look at thermostats

how do they work with the heat mats i'm assuming they connect together and once set to in this case 85f they would switch off the mat and the reversal if it went below

how would ventillation be done with a plastic box in a polystyreen box and not loose humidity and subsequently drying the eggs

like i stated this is my first attempt at snake breeding and obviously don't want it going belly up

Edited by - gmac on 16/03/2011 17:51:49
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gmac
The Scottish Admin

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Posted - 16/03/2011 :  17:51:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
pulse stat is what you need, it will heat the mat and then when at the set temp will send pulses to maintain that heat level.


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Invalid User
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/03/2011 :  18:03:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know you have made your incubator but this might help

http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8724
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Haplopelma
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/03/2011 :  18:26:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the 1st setup is much the same as mine except the thermostat
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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/03/2011 :  18:47:51  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I too use a poly box for incubating and don't have any ventilation at all, and little to none in the seperate egg boxes. Everything gets opened once a week for a few seconds to let in some fresh air. Too much venting can lose all the humidity and heat, and its this heat that is the important bit - if the stat sees the heat is down it will power up and by the time it thinks the correct temperature has been reached it can be too hot. A pulse stat (instead of a regular mat stat) helps reduce these spikes greatly and also keep a very accurate constant temperature.


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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!

United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/03/2011 :  20:44:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Your thread title should be P.guttata guttata.

now for some direction, a pulse stat or a dimmer is what you want, the probe goes in with the eggs, along with your thermometer, maintain 28 degrees C, convert that to F if it takes your fancy.
as long as your temps do not go about 33 or below 21, you are onto a winner.

Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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mikeyd_26
Yearling

United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/03/2011 :  22:09:22  Show Profile  Click to see mikeyd_26's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
ok off topic now i know! but why P.guttata guttata?



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gmac
The Scottish Admin

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Posted - 16/03/2011 :  22:22:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
used to be elephe G G is now pantherophis G G


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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/03/2011 :  22:29:06  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
"i can't regulate the temps but don't use the specific piece of equiment readily available and designed to regulate temps.........."

does that even warrant a useful reply?

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mikeyd_26
Yearling

United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/03/2011 :  22:29:27  Show Profile  Click to see mikeyd_26's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
ahh! koolio! so why the change and wots the difference between pantherophis and elaphae?



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0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/03/2011 :  22:46:20  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
its still officially Elaphe guttata. The change to Pantherophis guttatus was rejected by the International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature

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vetdebbie
Hatchling

United Kingdom
108 Posts

Posted - 16/03/2011 :  23:27:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eeji

its still officially Elaphe guttata. The change to Pantherophis guttatus was rejected by the International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature

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I didn't know that Ian, thanks.
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Haplopelma
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
7 Posts

Posted - 16/03/2011 :  23:36:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[/quote]
"i can't regulate the temps but don't use the specific piece of equiment readily available and designed to regulate temps.........."
does that even warrant a useful reply? i'm with oakley on this one
[/quote]

I have a thermostat on order

despite your sarcasm if you had even bothered to read my post properly then you would have seen that this is my FIRST reptile breeding and you would have seen that i'm used to breeding SPIDERS.

I am new to this forum and to snake breeding and I certainly don't want arguments just people who can be helpful and point me in the right direction rather than to be so arrogant and nasty arn't we not here to give help to people who are not sure if they are doing something wrong or just unsure in general.

Maybe I was mistaken but thanks to all of you whome have taken the time to help its much appreciated
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mikeyd_26
Yearling

United Kingdom
716 Posts

Posted - 17/03/2011 :  00:49:33  Show Profile  Click to see mikeyd_26's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
haplopelma - this is a very usefull forum i promise u! i joined 8/9 months ago with 1 snake now i got 6! and my 1st stop for information is here and its worth it! lots of people with gud info and true knowledge, just sometimes banter is banter and other times... well u know! :)



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0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/03/2011 :  07:24:49  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Right, all the faff removed (twice now), look how short this thread is now.

Please remember that just because you can press 'Submit Reply', does not mean that you have to

Be good everyone.



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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!

United Kingdom
2901 Posts

Posted - 18/03/2011 :  00:47:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
heres a good reason for you to get a thermostat, your temps are topping out at 30 degrees C, although its not to hot, its nearly there, if it goes over 33, the eggs will die before you can do anything about it.
also, 30 is likely to give you hot babies, they could be deformed, over grumpy or even not hatch at all, for the cost of a stat, its not worth the risk. the ideal temp is 28, which may only sound like a couple of degrees, which to be fair it is, however, that can make a world of difference!!

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