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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/02/2011 :  12:31:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a feeling I may be going over the top security wise here,but I'd rather be sure.
Been looking at keeping my next snake(s) in a rub,but I notice that where the lid sits on the box there is a slight gap.
Would it be possible for a really small hatchling to escape through the gap?


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kether
Egg

United Kingdom
51 Posts

Posted - 27/02/2011 :  12:44:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes!!!! block it with summthing asap. i lost my reverse okeetee hatchling through a a mini gap, lucky enough a found it eventually, felt like i had binned 50 quid was gutted!

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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 27/02/2011 :  13:04:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You're going for seriously small hatchies with housie snake so I would super secure your RUB's. I would even get some very fine gauze for your air holes, I've seen a corn hatchie escaping through a tiny hole so I'm sure housies can pass through incredibly small spaces. I noticed the slight gap around the lid but I'm getting a boa and there is no way it could get through but it did make me wonder.

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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5599 Posts

Posted - 27/02/2011 :  13:50:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know,thats what worrying me! Was going to put them in fauns,but I think an escape is inevitable in one of them!
Will only make small air oles in the RUB due to the size of the snake.
Going to try a line of sealant on the RUB to see if that will close the gap well enough. Failing that some rubber seals perhaps. Can't think of owt else at the moment.


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lucyloop
Hatchling

United Kingdom
265 Posts

Posted - 27/02/2011 :  15:25:26  Show Profile  Visit lucyloop's Homepage  Reply with Quote
When Tiko was in his faun there was a side gap so I cable tied to the extreme! It took blo*dy ages to get into the thing but it helped me sleep!
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 27/02/2011 :  15:26:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was thinking of putting some sort of rubber gasket on them. Not quite sure how to go about it. Maybe someone on here has addressed this problem and wouldn't mind sharing.

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tehbunneh
Hatchling

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390 Posts

Posted - 27/02/2011 :  17:11:20  Show Profile  Visit tehbunneh's Homepage  Send tehbunneh an AOL message  Click to see tehbunneh's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I have to say my tiny little Boa' is in a 4L RUB currently, and has never once escaped, or managed to get himself through the gap. The gap appears to be bigger on the outer edge, where we can see, but fits REALLY snugly where the two parts of the box actually meet. I guess if it will help, some sealant would probably do the trick and create a rubbery seal, but I'd be careful of sticking it together and fail being able to get in to your snake at all, lol! I believe the clipping of the handles into place stops the gap being an issue, but yeah, mine has never got out, and when he went in, he was literally a 10g, 12inch hatchie that looked like a serious shoelace!

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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5599 Posts

Posted - 27/02/2011 :  17:41:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lol,I've put some sealant round the lid but I won't be putting the lid back on the box for a couple of days just to be sure.
Loki was arounsd the same size as Boa' when I got him,but from what I've seeen of house snakes they are a LOT smaller!!


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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/02/2011 :  17:56:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.flickr.com/photos/erikpaterson/4894420113/

Found this picture, they are soo incredibly tiny.

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reptiledanny
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1809 Posts

Posted - 27/02/2011 :  18:01:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wow, they are about as thin as a bootlace, so so tiny


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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5599 Posts

Posted - 27/02/2011 :  19:59:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yep,they are shockingly tiny.....hence the paranoia!!


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hillzi
The Lost boy.

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Posted - 27/02/2011 :  21:12:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tehbunneh

I have to say my tiny little Boa' is in a 4L RUB currently, and has never once escaped, or managed to get himself through the gap. The gap appears to be bigger on the outer edge, where we can see, but fits REALLY snugly where the two parts of the box actually meet. I guess if it will help, some sealant would probably do the trick and create a rubbery seal, but I'd be careful of sticking it together and fail being able to get in to your snake at all, lol! I believe the clipping of the handles into place stops the gap being an issue, but yeah, mine has never got out, and when he went in, he was literally a 10g, 12inch hatchie that looked like a serious shoelace!




^^

this.

Don't bother with sealant, as the RUB's get smaller, as you'd need a small RUB for a small snake, the gap would be more tight as of the size of the thing.

A soldering iron makes tiny holes if you use just the nib of it for the airholes. no bootlace can escape that. putting mesh on it is being a too paranoid IMO.
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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5599 Posts

Posted - 28/02/2011 :  20:07:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well the sealant didn't stick anyway lol. Had a look at various sizes of RUB from 3l upwards and they all had the gap I've been worried about. Ended up buying a clip and seal box in the end which I can use till the snakes larger.
Yep,I'm a worry wart!

Used a skewer for the air holes and I'm happy with them though.


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Edited by - Mort13 on 28/02/2011 20:08:40
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CentricMalteser
Banned

United Kingdom
238 Posts

Posted - 28/02/2011 :  20:47:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
use Geocel aquarium sealant, recommeneed by many people including aquatic shops etc
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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5599 Posts

Posted - 01/03/2011 :  10:23:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thats what I used. Its great for sealing the vivs but doesn't fully adhere to the plastic a RUB is made from.
Happy with my clip seal box now.


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CentricMalteser
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/03/2011 :  14:51:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Really??? I didn't know thatm thanks for the info!!

quote:
Originally posted by Mort13

Thats what I used. Its great for sealing the vivs but doesn't fully adhere to the plastic a RUB is made from.
Happy with my clip seal box now.

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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5599 Posts

Posted - 04/03/2011 :  12:35:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Heh,heh I didn't know till I tried it.
Well this is what I ended up with. I may have gone over the top worrying about RUB escapes but at least I'll be able to sleep.
Just hope I can get the snake(s) now lol.




Thats not a poo in the tub its some moss still in the packaging lol.


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Mole
Hatchling

United Kingdom
121 Posts

Posted - 04/03/2011 :  14:51:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Glad you cleared that one up for me was just contemplating what it was lol, and the rub looks wicked, cant wait to see the new arrival(s)



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Sta~ple
qeeun speler

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Posted - 04/03/2011 :  15:17:43  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Love the pink hide :p was a dessert in there. I would like some pink ones as it would go well with the purple and black ones I have XD



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Posted - 04/03/2011 :  16:18:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks great.

Love the skull in there.

I bet you will still keep checking though! I'm paranoid now about Lupin escaping again and keep checking he is still inside his tub lol
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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5599 Posts

Posted - 04/03/2011 :  23:47:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sta~ple

Love the pink hide :p was a dessert in there. I would like some pink ones as it would go well with the purple and black ones I have XD


Heh,heh its a kids drinking cup. Got a pack in different colours,unfortunately theres no purple though. That would be a brill colour scheme.
Got a blue one put to the side though.....just in case.
Louise,you are bob on there. I'm not surprised you're paranoid about Lupin escaping,seems like he's a seasoned escapee!


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