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tehbunneh
Hatchling

United Kingdom
390 Posts

Posted - 19/02/2011 :  00:03:04  Show Profile  Visit tehbunneh's Homepage  Send tehbunneh an AOL message  Click to see tehbunneh's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Whilst talking to a friend in America that is also into snakes, I have been talked into loving the expensive Ball Python XDD OH MY GOODNESS do those snakes come in some groove morphs! I couldn't BELIEVE it when I saw a Killer Bee for the first time O.O What a gorgeous snake, and so similar to the Corn in care!

I have decided that, at some point, I WILL own one or two of these fantastic little snakies! I understand they can be a bit finickety about food, and have a tendency to shed badly, but I just thought I would share my new found love X3 I don't usually like the pythons, but these guys aren't as sluggy as Royals, and don't grow too large, so I am looking forward to a time when I may be able to get one!

EMZ - WORCESTER, UK

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0.1.0 Taiwanese Beauty
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 19/02/2011 :  00:14:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BallPython is the American name for a Royal Python, they are exactly the same.

but your right they are gorgeous. AND not at all slugish! lol.

They are notoriously funny feeders but it does them no harm.

Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.

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gmac
The Scottish Admin

United Kingdom
5319 Posts

Posted - 19/02/2011 :  00:48:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tehbunneh

Whilst talking to a friend in America that is also into snakes, I have been talked into loving the expensive Ball Python XDD OH MY GOODNESS do those snakes come in some groove morphs! I couldn't BELIEVE it when I saw a Killer Bee for the first time O.O What a gorgeous snake, and so similar to the Corn in care!

I have decided that, at some point, I WILL own one or two of these fantastic little snakies! I understand they can be a bit finickety about food, and have a tendency to shed badly, but I just thought I would share my new found love X3 I don't usually like the pythons, but these guys aren't as sluggy as Royals, and don't grow too large, so I am looking forward to a time when I may be able to get one!




They are not similar in care to a corn, corns are hardy creatures royals are stressy and take the huff if anything changes. Similarly for heating you shouldnt be using a mat for vivs should be bulbs whereas corns can be kept on mats.

Eating, is not finicky it is what they do they eat when they want and they dont eat when they want. people get more stressed than the snakes at them not eating, going for 3 months without food is not unusual.

quote:
Originally posted by lotabob

BallPython is the American name for a Royal Python, they are exactly the same.

but your right they are gorgeous. AND not at all slugish! lol.

They are notoriously funny feeders but it does them no harm.



Ball python is used globally the only place that call them royals is the UK.


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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5599 Posts

Posted - 19/02/2011 :  09:21:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Was it definitely ball pythons your friend was talking about?
If so then yes they are also known as royals.
The breeder I got Falcor from breeds them and refers to them as ball pythons as do most. If you look at a lot of breeders websites they are referred to as ball pythons.
Hope you get to be able to afford one of these very beautiful slugs soon.
I love them myself.


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lrv2307
Yearling

United Kingdom
863 Posts

Posted - 19/02/2011 :  12:21:39  Show Profile  Click to see lrv2307's MSN Messenger address  Send lrv2307 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
thre was a really good artical on them and their morphs in reptil keeper mag a couple of months ago

i think you can still get a back copy

some are beautiful, i love the bumblebee morph, but i expect they are bloomin expensive to buy as hatchies lol

lrv (louise)
Uxbridge, Middlesex
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Newbie
Yearling

950 Posts

Posted - 19/02/2011 :  12:44:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gmac

quote:
Originally posted by tehbunneh

Whilst talking to a friend in America that is also into snakes, I have been talked into loving the expensive Ball Python XDD OH MY GOODNESS do those snakes come in some groove morphs! I couldn't BELIEVE it when I saw a Killer Bee for the first time O.O What a gorgeous snake, and so similar to the Corn in care!

I have decided that, at some point, I WILL own one or two of these fantastic little snakies! I understand they can be a bit finickety about food, and have a tendency to shed badly, but I just thought I would share my new found love X3 I don't usually like the pythons, but these guys aren't as sluggy as Royals, and don't grow too large, so I am looking forward to a time when I may be able to get one!




They are not similar in care to a corn, corns are hardy creatures royals are stressy and take the huff if anything changes. Similarly for heating you shouldnt be using a mat for vivs should be bulbs whereas corns can be kept on mats.

Eating, is not finicky it is what they do they eat when they want and they dont eat when they want. people get more stressed than the snakes at them not eating, going for 3 months without food is not unusual.

quote:
Originally posted by lotabob

BallPython is the American name for a Royal Python, they are exactly the same.

but your right they are gorgeous. AND not at all slugish! lol.

They are notoriously funny feeders but it does them no harm.



Ball python is used globally the only place that call them royals is the UK.



Could a Royal hatchling be in a RUB with a mat under initially and have a radiant heat source when upgreaded to a viv or do they need a proper viv straight away? Thanks



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gmac
The Scottish Admin

United Kingdom
5319 Posts

Posted - 19/02/2011 :  14:40:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Newbie

quote:
Originally posted by gmac

quote:
Originally posted by tehbunneh

Whilst talking to a friend in America that is also into snakes, I have been talked into loving the expensive Ball Python XDD OH MY GOODNESS do those snakes come in some groove morphs! I couldn't BELIEVE it when I saw a Killer Bee for the first time O.O What a gorgeous snake, and so similar to the Corn in care!

I have decided that, at some point, I WILL own one or two of these fantastic little snakies! I understand they can be a bit finickety about food, and have a tendency to shed badly, but I just thought I would share my new found love X3 I don't usually like the pythons, but these guys aren't as sluggy as Royals, and don't grow too large, so I am looking forward to a time when I may be able to get one!




They are not similar in care to a corn, corns are hardy creatures royals are stressy and take the huff if anything changes. Similarly for heating you shouldnt be using a mat for vivs should be bulbs whereas corns can be kept on mats.

Eating, is not finicky it is what they do they eat when they want and they dont eat when they want. people get more stressed than the snakes at them not eating, going for 3 months without food is not unusual.

quote:
Originally posted by lotabob

BallPython is the American name for a Royal Python, they are exactly the same.

but your right they are gorgeous. AND not at all slugish! lol.

They are notoriously funny feeders but it does them no harm.



Ball python is used globally the only place that call them royals is the UK.



Could a Royal hatchling be in a RUB with a mat under initially and have a radiant heat source when upgreaded to a viv or do they need a proper viv straight away? Thanks



yes thats what I do with mine, rubs and mats, rubs are ideal for baby royals as it gives them some privacy and is a small enough space for them to feel secure.


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Kehhlyr
ǝʞɐɔ sǝʌoן

United Kingdom
8173 Posts

Posted - 19/02/2011 :  14:41:45  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
When young and still small they could happily be in a rub.
It's when they are a fair bit bigger that it could cause issues as they're quite heavy bodied snakes (fattys) and there's a chance of thermal blocking occurring when using a heatmat.

-=Kehhlyr - The Resident Loon

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tehbunneh
Hatchling

United Kingdom
390 Posts

Posted - 19/02/2011 :  15:53:03  Show Profile  Visit tehbunneh's Homepage  Send tehbunneh an AOL message  Click to see tehbunneh's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Aaaah, I see! No wonder I was so confused when some places call them Royals and others Balls! Thanks for the undated information there!

I've been looking at a few sites, and I understand that they need the light, but other places suggested a heat mat as well. Is that not a good idea? I'll be reading up a bit more by the looks of it X3 I won't be getting any for a good few years, but they are an interesting snake! At least I now know that Royals and Balls are the same breed! That should aid in finding them for sale X3

EMZ - WORCESTER, UK

3.2.0 Corn Snakes
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0.1.0 Taiwanese Beauty
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gmac
The Scottish Admin

United Kingdom
5319 Posts

Posted - 19/02/2011 :  15:59:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
if they are in a viv then a mat is a no no, see kehhlyrs comment above ragards thermal blocking.

www.theroyalpython.co.uk is a very good source of info


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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 19/02/2011 :  16:04:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I use an Infra red bulb, for heat. I had a whole load of hassle & stress caused by bad advice from the reptile shop so be careful. They are huffy and stressy, but once you get your setup just as they like it, they are a joy to own. The thing that amazes me the most though is when handling they feel and act totally different to a corn, they have quite a bulk to them too, my Duke is a right heffer, and you get a real idea of their strength just by holding them, a corn snake adult will barely be as strong as a royal hatchie.

I am very glad I got a Royal, even just a normal looking one.

Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.

MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL http://www.youtube.com/user/alocheeky
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tehbunneh
Hatchling

United Kingdom
390 Posts

Posted - 19/02/2011 :  19:19:42  Show Profile  Visit tehbunneh's Homepage  Send tehbunneh an AOL message  Click to see tehbunneh's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Thanks Bob ^^ You may become a source of newbie information to me when I consider the new addition! For now though, I will content myself with looking at my low bank balance and images on google XDDD

EMZ - WORCESTER, UK

3.2.0 Corn Snakes
Conan (CB09 Carolina); Ripley (CB09 Ghost); Widget (CB09 Hypo Pewter); Dexter (CB10 Granite); Boa'tata (CB10 Bloodred)
0.1.0 Taiwanese Beauty
Taiki (CB11)
1.0.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake
Tanis (CB10)
0.0.1 Amazon Tree Boa
Winston (CB??)
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