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mikeyd_26
Yearling

United Kingdom
716 Posts

Posted - 25/11/2010 :  22:22:18  Show Profile  Click to see mikeyd_26's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote


any ways this is marley my vanishing stripe corn hybrid! im pretty sure he's got anery in him but which type im not sure, i was thinking maybe charcoal? he's got pink to purple tones all the way through him if that helps??? any ideas?

* tidied up



0.1.0 amel - TaLuLa
0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
millions of beardies!

Edited by - gmac on 25/11/2010 22:34:12

mikeyd_26
Yearling

United Kingdom
716 Posts

Posted - 25/11/2010 :  22:33:26  Show Profile  Click to see mikeyd_26's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
this pic might be better!



0.1.0 amel - TaLuLa
0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
millions of beardies!
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tehbunneh
Hatchling

United Kingdom
390 Posts

Posted - 25/11/2010 :  22:58:18  Show Profile  Visit tehbunneh's Homepage  Send tehbunneh an AOL message  Click to see tehbunneh's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
You reckon he is a corn hybrid? He looks pretty straight corn to me, and Iunno, as I'm no expert, but I'm not sure rat snakes or king snakes, or the other types of snakes that can be crossed with corns necessarily have the stripe pattern. That is, if that is what you mean?

If what you are meaning are what morphs have been crossed to create him, then I'm not sure on what creates this morph, someone like eeji or gmac may be better, but that little fella looks very much like a Lavender Stripe to me (http://iansvivarium.com/morphguide/lavender). Otherwise, possible pale Ghost Stripe (http://iansvivarium.com/morphguide/ghost/)? What was he sold to you as? He's beautiful either way though ^^ Very nice purchase either way!

EMZ - WORCESTER, UK

3.2.0 Corn Snakes
Conan (CB09 Carolina); Ripley (CB09 Ghost); Widget (CB09 Hypo Pewter); Dexter (CB10 Granite); Boa'tata (CB10 Bloodred)
0.1.0 Taiwanese Beauty
Taiki (CB11)
1.0.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake
Tanis (CB10)
0.0.1 Amazon Tree Boa
Winston (CB??)

Edited by - tehbunneh on 25/11/2010 22:59:05
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mikeyd_26
Yearling

United Kingdom
716 Posts

Posted - 25/11/2010 :  23:10:31  Show Profile  Click to see mikeyd_26's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
he deffo hybrid ;) u can tell from the snout - not the norm corn shape! ( see 1st pic!)

he was sold as vanishing stripe hybrid poss charcoal!!!! but unknown really! as theres not much history on the little fella or his dad (who apparently was a project a well known breeder had no time for)

EDIT - like the idea of lavender! but just adds to my confusion! lol! :)






0.1.0 amel - TaLuLa
0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
millions of beardies!

Edited by - mikeyd_26 on 26/11/2010 00:38:21
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drchino
Yearling

United Kingdom
660 Posts

Posted - 26/11/2010 :  16:09:49  Show Profile  Visit drchino's Homepage  Reply with Quote
oh wow, stunning snake!


0.1.0 Izzy - Amber Motley Corn
0.2.0 White rats - Rose and Myra
0.0.1 Crested Gecko - Yoshi
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United Kingdom
0 Posts

Posted - 26/11/2010 :  16:39:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lovely snake :o)
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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 26/11/2010 :  18:44:30  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
don't ask me, I'm useless with hybrids! :D To add to the confusion, there are a rew ratsnakes that have stripes as their normal adult pattern with 'cornsnake like' saddles as youngsters (Everglades, Yellow, Bairds) but yours is showing a clear white belly which would suggest the stripe is 'cornsnake stripe'

on the off chance, do you know who the breeder is?


Forum - Guide to Cornsnake Morphs - Punnett Square Calculator - Breeder Directory

Edited by - eeji on 26/11/2010 18:46:08
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Posted - 28/11/2010 :  11:21:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He is lovely, what a beautiful colour

0.1.0 Crested Gecko: Keiko
2.1.0 Corn Snakes: Picollo, Morph, Sookie
0.1.0 Royal Python: Luna
0.0.1 Pueblan Milk Snake: Chilli
2.4.0 Leopard Geckos: Cleo, Echo, Tiffin, Roley, Scarlett, Ludwig
1.0.0 Understanding Boyfriend: Nick

www.vickyexotics.webs.com

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mikeyd_26
Yearling

United Kingdom
716 Posts

Posted - 28/11/2010 :  19:36:25  Show Profile  Click to see mikeyd_26's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
thanks for the comments guys :)

@ eeji - apparently lexcorns!!!! - the people i got him from have always been straight with me tho so i beleve them



0.1.0 amel - TaLuLa
0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
millions of beardies!
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Tiffany-x
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1189 Posts

Posted - 28/11/2010 :  19:49:31  Show Profile  Click to see Tiffany-x's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
If you know the breeder maybe you should get in touch, surely that is the only way of getting a definite answer. :)
Tiffany-x

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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5599 Posts

Posted - 28/11/2010 :  20:32:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That snake is beautiful!
I'm not saying you've been told wrong or owt,but I got Falcor from Lexcorn a month ago and I really don't think hybrids is something they do.
I'd definitely go to the website and get in touch direct with her. She's brill and I'm sure she'd solve the puzzle for you.


3.1.0 Corn snakes, 1.0.0 T-Albino Cape House Snake, 0.1.0 Western Hognose,
1.0.0 MBK, 0.1.0 Childrens Python, 1.0.0 Nicaraguan Dwarf Boas
0.0.1 Occelated Skink, 1.0.0 Leopard Gecko, 1.0.3 Tarantulas, 0.0.2 Damon diadema
1.0.0 C0ckatiel,







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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 28/11/2010 :  22:38:13  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
if Lex is the breeder then I'll put my life savings on him being pure cornsnake (about 36p, just in case I'm wrong!!!!). If you get in touch with her she should be able to tell you straight away what morph he is :)


Forum - Guide to Cornsnake Morphs - Punnett Square Calculator - Breeder Directory
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tehbunneh
Hatchling

United Kingdom
390 Posts

Posted - 28/11/2010 :  23:31:10  Show Profile  Visit tehbunneh's Homepage  Send tehbunneh an AOL message  Click to see tehbunneh's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I must say that his snout looks all corn to me, just a young face - and they do change a lot amongst individuals. Widget of my lot has a very long face, but Dexter has a face quite similar to yours, a lot shorter and broader.

EMZ - WORCESTER, UK

3.2.0 Corn Snakes
Conan (CB09 Carolina); Ripley (CB09 Ghost); Widget (CB09 Hypo Pewter); Dexter (CB10 Granite); Boa'tata (CB10 Bloodred)
0.1.0 Taiwanese Beauty
Taiki (CB11)
1.0.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake
Tanis (CB10)
0.0.1 Amazon Tree Boa
Winston (CB??)
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mikeyd_26
Yearling

United Kingdom
716 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2010 :  22:41:27  Show Profile  Click to see mikeyd_26's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
when i enquired about this guys history this is the e-mail i got bk as a reply -

I bought a pair of striped corn snakes from lexcorn who said they were a project she had been given but didn't have time for.

One was anery looking (Lexcorn thought maybe pewter stripe) and one was caramel looking (Lexcorn thought amber stripe).

I brought these up from hatchlings and bred them the outcome being the beautiful hatchlings you saw a picture of.

I did some research way back and found out the snakes came from Phil Draper. Now he has some Great Plains Rat Snakes and corn snakes and he does not keep records of what he puts together.

So I can only assume somewhere in the mix with the strong characteristics of corn snake that there is some great Plain rat snake in them as they have a slightly shorter nose.

I'm afraid this is the best explanation I can give.

jo




0.1.0 amel - TaLuLa
0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
millions of beardies!

Edited by - mikeyd_26 on 29/11/2010 22:42:18
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mikeyd_26
Yearling

United Kingdom
716 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2010 :  22:43:34  Show Profile  Click to see mikeyd_26's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
see why im i a bit stuck??? LOL!!!!

wot ever the outcome of this little guy is i dnt mind to much! he's a grumpy snake! (likes to chew!!) but an absolute stunner in the flesh! :)



0.1.0 amel - TaLuLa
0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
millions of beardies!

Edited by - mikeyd_26 on 29/11/2010 22:48:58
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scotsman
Egg

71 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2010 :  22:55:50  Show Profile  Visit scotsman's Homepage  Click to see scotsman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I can only agree with Eeji, Lex would not sell Hybrids without at least declareing them as such. If you think its a Hybrid because of the short nose, whats with Sunkissed? They all have shorter noses than "normal" Corns.

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mikeyd_26
Yearling

United Kingdom
716 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2010 :  23:38:13  Show Profile  Click to see mikeyd_26's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
it was just my general assumption becos of the stub nose and beady eyes! plus wot the person i got him from said.

Im no expert by any means tho so if sum 1 can morph him/correct me i wont argue!!!!

oh and just to add if he is pure corn why is he so hard to morph?? only asking becos im looking for answers! not an attepmt at trying to be clever! LOL!!!



0.1.0 amel - TaLuLa
0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
millions of beardies!

Edited by - mikeyd_26 on 29/11/2010 23:45:12
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scotsman
Egg

71 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2010 :  23:41:34  Show Profile  Visit scotsman's Homepage  Click to see scotsman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
My guess would be Anery Stripe (possibly vanishing) or a Ghost Stripe (also possibly vanishing)

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mikeyd_26
Yearling

United Kingdom
716 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2010 :  23:46:26  Show Profile  Click to see mikeyd_26's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i'd be happy with them!! ^^^



0.1.0 amel - TaLuLa
0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
millions of beardies!
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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 30/11/2010 :  12:48:01  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
if Phil Draper is involved, then they could be pretty much anything!


Forum - Guide to Cornsnake Morphs - Punnett Square Calculator - Breeder Directory
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Tiffany-x
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1189 Posts

Posted - 30/11/2010 :  17:14:13  Show Profile  Click to see Tiffany-x's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eeji

if Phil Draper is involved, then they could be pretty much anything!



Do you breeders all know each other or something? :P You seem to know everyone that anyone mentions! :P Its so freaky! Makes me chuckle, but one day you will say oh yeah that Tiffany Castledine has the most beautiful corns in the whole world!! xD Sorry Im having one of those days, sorry Im off topic and a bit nutty. :P
Tiffany-x

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