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rachiepotatoe
Hatchling
United Kingdom
393 Posts |
 Posted - 04/11/2010 : 20:27:48
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So I thought this was a major no-no when housing corns!
But went to a little pet shop today and they had a lovely little corn housed with red sand o.O
So who's right?!
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Sika
Hatchling
350 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2010 : 20:52:14
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I would like to know that too!
I've got a hognose who loves to borrow himself and I therefore bought a bag of Exo Terra red dessert sand; but it's so fine, like flour, so I wouldn't give it to him. (asked in the pet shop and they said it was okay to use)
It's so hard to find a good answer.... |
0.1 Corn snake - Motley Sunglow (Aia)
1.0 Hognose - normal (Vitus)
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2010 : 20:52:44
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| Sand can be very abrasive and probably will get under the scales, into the eyes and nostrils. Thats only a few reasons, there are more for sand being a no-no as a substrate. |
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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3070 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2010 : 20:52:46
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If I remember correctly it dehydrates them.
I imagine the pet shop dosn't know any better, maybe even done it to make the tank look nicer, a potential customer is possibly more likely to buy if the set up looks nice.
Edit: Sika, one of my corns loves to burrow and i find that Aspen is perfect for it. |
0.0.1 Ghost Corn - Casper
0.0.1 Diffused Corn - Reggie
0.0.1 Amel Corn - Candy A.K.A Baby
1.0 Commom BCI - Rocky
0.1 Japanese Akita - Sasha
Location: Liverpool |
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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5853 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2010 : 20:57:50
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As far as I'm aware most of us on here would not use sand. It can cause problems i.e getting under scales, impaction if digested with mouse, irritant for eyes, respiriatory problems etc.
A lot of pet shops have no idea about reptiles and give wrong advice as well as not using correct set ups themselves. Poor little creatures.  |
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rachiepotatoe
Hatchling
United Kingdom
393 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2010 : 21:41:39
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Glad I was right, because I was really annoyed afterwards !
I should go back and tell them they're idiots ¬_¬
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drchino
Yearling
United Kingdom
660 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2010 : 23:16:21
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| Has any one ever been to a pet shop and been told something right? I only ever hear them giving bad information! |
0.1.0 Izzy - Amber Motley Corn
0.2.0 White rats - Rose and Myra
0.0.1 Crested Gecko - Yoshi |
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Katie.Dublin
Sub Adult
Ireland
1560 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2010 : 23:48:08
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| I was told sand can cause mouth rot....! I had mine on it for a few days, exo terra desert sand. Read up on it and moved them off it post haste! It DID look very cool though, with the lines they made through it as hatchies. But obviously snakes health comes WELL before appearances |
     
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
10455 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2010 : 08:19:38
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sand is for sand boas and hoggies  |
cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos
Location:Leeds/York/Selby area |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2010 : 09:29:16
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quote:
Originally posted by Katie.Dublin
I was told sand can cause mouth rot....! I had mine on it for a few days, exo terra desert sand. Read up on it and moved them off it post haste! It DID look very cool though, with the lines they made through it as hatchies. But obviously snakes health comes WELL before appearances
Just having sand wont have that impact on their health, if the sand gets wet, then that would do it. both mouth rot and scale rot would be brought on by being too damp.
the biggest problem with it is when it gets into the snakes digestive system, it will cause an impaction, so potentially expensive vets bills and worry. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
10455 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2010 : 14:16:55
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Originally posted by eeji
sand is for kids to play in! :D
oh, and cats to **** in!!!  |
cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos
Location:Leeds/York/Selby area |
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
6129 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2010 : 16:57:55
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| I've seen scaleless snakes housed on sand. Maybe its better for them as the snad is a lot softer on their skin I imagine than bits of wood and since they have very few scales... not really going to go up their scales. Unless they have belly scales. |
   
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Katie.Dublin
Sub Adult
Ireland
1560 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2010 : 17:54:31
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| A scaleless snake???? |
0.1 normal (Miami) - Hugo
0.1 hypo Motley - Spunky
0.1 MBK - Tequila. RIP
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2010 : 22:48:12
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Originally posted by Sta~ple
I've seen scaleless snakes housed on sand. Maybe its better for them as the snad is a lot softer on their skin I imagine than bits of wood and since they have very few scales... not really going to go up their scales. Unless they have belly scales.
even the scaleless snakes have the same problems with impactions.
sand is a no no, for the reasons above, scales or no scales.
There are a few scaleless morphs about at the mo, i think mostly they are corns, personally i havent seen any, it doesnt really interest me, that and i certainly cannot afford one!!! |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2010 : 22:51:10
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double post!!  |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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stotty01
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1168 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2010 : 23:00:42
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| i swear can give them RI aswell |
my aunties, bestfriends, hairdressers, friends boyfriend had a snake and it stretched out to measure him to eat him......true story.....
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Tail n scales, Linton, Cambs, CB21 4XN, Tel no 01223 893 508 http://www.tails-n-scales.co.uk/
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5599 Posts |
Posted - 06/11/2010 : 00:07:28
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Originally posted by Katie.Dublin
A scaleless snake????
Yeah,I know.
http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9424&whichpage=1
Seems wrong doesn't it. I don't agree with it myself,but thats just my opinion. One of the things I love about snakes and other reptiles is their scales and for them not to have any (well the majority missing) just seems wrong.
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stotty01
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1168 Posts |
Posted - 06/11/2010 : 00:17:41
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| there 5000 dollars according to snakebytetv |
my aunties, bestfriends, hairdressers, friends boyfriend had a snake and it stretched out to measure him to eat him......true story.....
1.0.0 tortoise
1.0.0 sinaloan milk snake
1.0.0 jack russel
0.1.0 anery corn medusa
1.0.0 snow corn abomninable
0.1.0 royal python priscilla
http://www.youtube.com/user/stotty01 dads youtube channel
Tail n scales, Linton, Cambs, CB21 4XN, Tel no 01223 893 508 http://www.tails-n-scales.co.uk/
wish list: boa! |
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 06/11/2010 : 00:54:44
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| I've never heard of snakes without scales before and its just not right, a genetic deformity that some horrible breeders are exploiting. With all the reasons snakes need their scales and not even one reason why they wouldn't need them I cant help but think its just cruel. Now if I bred snakes and the result was a scaleless snake, even with the fact they are worth a fortune, an animals suffering is NOT worth it, I would be inclined to put it out of its misery rather than know I've lined my pocket while a snake suffers for the next 20odd years. |
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