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Posted - 21/10/2010 :  19:22:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
one of my cornshas a sore bum wont eat and is losing weight if I force feed him he often regurgitates it My local pet shop where I bought him thinks he has pinworm so we're at the vet tomorrow can anyone tell me will this affect the others in the vivarium and how he got them they're cleaned out weekly everythings disinfected and water bowls changed daily everthings spotless so where have I gone wrong will the other snakes be infected and how much will the treatment cost

Kehhlyr
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Posted - 21/10/2010 :  19:55:24  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
From what little I know about pinworm, it's usually transmitted via something they've ingested, so possibly a food item that had the parasite.
Cannot remember the exact name for it but something like 'Panacare' I think it was called was something I had been suggested to use for a suspect pinworm infestation.
I didn't even know that they could survive in reptiles.

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herriotfan
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Posted - 21/10/2010 :  20:33:32  Show Profile  Click to see herriotfan's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Panacur? It's an animal wormer that comes in liquid or tablet form. Could that be what you mean Kehhlyr?


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rachiepotatoe
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Posted - 21/10/2010 :  21:20:02  Show Profile  Click to see rachiepotatoe's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Can pinworm live in reptiles? or animals at all?
Sorry, I just attempted to do a little research to add to my animal health assignment but read that 'Animals cannot harbour pinworm, humans are the only natural host'
(I probably sound like a thicko now)

whatever it is I hope your corn is okay! do let us know!

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kdlang
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Posted - 21/10/2010 :  22:22:03  Show Profile  Click to see kdlang's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hope it turns out ok for the chap. Sounds horrible whatever it is. I would think tho that it might be advisable to seperate him from your other corns if until you know for sure what it is. It would be awful if it could be transmitted.

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eeji
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Posted - 21/10/2010 :  22:47:28  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
you keep an ill cornsnake with others??!!!!!!!

you've just instantly doubled (or worse if theres more than 2 in the viv) your vet bill because all of them will need to be taken for the same checks to rule out any cross contamination.

Get them seperated asap.


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gingerpony
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Posted - 22/10/2010 :  08:59:52  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
a sore bum? i'm thinking prolapse?

and totally agree with eeji above, the first thing to do would be isolate the ill snake! if one has parasites and you co-habit them they probably all do to a certain extent (though this may not show physically)
treatment is likely to be with panacur, metronidazole or flagyl-s and ideally ALL the co-habiting snakes should be separated and treated at the same time.
had you considered that the non-feeding, weight loss and regurgitation be caused by the stress of co-habitation?

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Kehhlyr
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Posted - 22/10/2010 :  20:25:04  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Panacur was the thing I was refering to.
It was suggested as a possible treatment for mine until they knew exactly how he damaged himself.

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mikerichards
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Posted - 23/10/2010 :  15:27:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pin Worm does affect animals, they can infest very very quickly, the only way to really test for sure is for the vet to do a faecal test, he may be able to do it in house, or its gonna have to go to a lab to be done.
If you are keeping that snake with others, then you are going to have to treat them all, pin worm is not transmitted from each other, it comes from the food, so if one has it, and you feed them all from the same place, then its highly likely that they all have it.
when you go to the vet, make sure that even if he does a test in house, that you get a proper sample done by a lab, just so you can be sure there is nothing else going on, especially if none of the others are showing symptoms.
symptoms are rapid weight loss, regurge, unwilling to feed, and death. Problems at the back end are not a symptom of pin worm.

Panacur is the stuff to treat with, but in very very small doses, make sure that the vet you go to is knowlegable in reptiles, and knows that its a crazy small amount per day. something like 0.2ml per lb, thats not right, but its something like that.
It may be too late, sometimes once an animal has gone beyond being able to sort itself out, it will die anyway, no matter what you do, its always better to keep on top of these things.

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