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Gaz_1989
Yearling

United Kingdom
931 Posts

Posted - 26/09/2010 :  13:15:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I really like Bloodred corns and the adult on ians vivarium is gorgeous. I love the solid red colour with no patterning hardly.

Do they all end up solid red or do some keep the orangey pattern? Ive seen loads of pictures that have the pattern and 2 tone colour, are these just young ones?

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Doogle
Yearling

United Kingdom
617 Posts

Posted - 26/09/2010 :  14:55:44  Show Profile  Visit Doogle's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gaz_1989

I really like Bloodred corns and the adult on ians vivarium is gorgeous. I love the solid red colour with no patterning hardly.

Do they all end up solid red or do some keep the orangey pattern? Ive seen loads of pictures that have the pattern and 2 tone colour, are these just young ones?



Hi Gaz, Bloodreds dont really reach their full colour in till they are around 5yrs old! At this time their colour should be at its deepest red! Some do keep their saddle marking but some do look more of a solid red snake! Sort of depends on lineage and hets can change a snakes appearance too!

Best thing to do is get a striped bloodred as these mature into a solid red snake! Stunning snakes!

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Gaz_1989
Yearling

United Kingdom
931 Posts

Posted - 26/09/2010 :  16:59:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, 5 years old! Thanks for info.

I will look at bloodred stripes. I really Like the solid red.

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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 26/09/2010 :  18:11:56  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Bloodred is selectively bred for the deep red colouring from the diffused morph, but a lot of people use the names interchangably so many bloodreds are 'just' diffused


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Gaz_1989
Yearling

United Kingdom
931 Posts

Posted - 26/09/2010 :  19:54:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Are you likely to have any Genuine bloodred's in the next few years Eeji?

Or know the whereabouts of any?

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Gaz_1989
Yearling

United Kingdom
931 Posts

Posted - 27/09/2010 :  12:23:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just seen bloodred stripes! Wow.

I want one!!

Anyone know how rare these are?

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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 27/09/2010 :  18:52:35  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
unfortunately I won't be getting any, theres already too many 'projects' on the go! :D (although diffused features in some of those projects ;) )


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Doogle
Yearling

United Kingdom
617 Posts

Posted - 27/09/2010 :  19:41:04  Show Profile  Visit Doogle's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gaz_1989

Just seen bloodred stripes! Wow.

I want one!!

Anyone know how rare these are?



I know Pete as some for sale at good prices too! Here is his website! http://www.unusualalbinosnakes.com/

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Gaz_1989
Yearling

United Kingdom
931 Posts

Posted - 28/09/2010 :  16:35:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the replys, and thanks especially to doogle.

I have been in touch with pete and he has got Bloodred Stripes het Fire and will let me have one for £90.

What do you reckon folks?

Should I go for it?

Gaz,

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chrish
Hatchling

United Kingdom
172 Posts

Posted - 28/09/2010 :  17:31:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would!

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Brookestar
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2361 Posts

Posted - 28/09/2010 :  19:17:58  Show Profile  Click to see Brookestar's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
well i may be totally wrong here but... bloodred is a diffused trait so cant be het fire because fire is also diffused :/
i know they slightly different so might be wrong, if so im sorry but would like to know :)
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Doogle
Yearling

United Kingdom
617 Posts

Posted - 28/09/2010 :  19:57:50  Show Profile  Visit Doogle's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Go for it Gaz! They are stunning as adults and the het fire should make it even more red!

When he put Bloodred Stripe het fire it really means Bloodred het Amel as Amel bloodred is fire! I think thats what Brook is saying and she is right! Sometimes people put what it could produce as it makes it easier for the buyer so they know what they can produce when bredding! So you could make Bloodred stripes and Fire Stripes etc!

I think the het will affect the snake and make it even more red!

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Gaz_1989
Yearling

United Kingdom
931 Posts

Posted - 28/09/2010 :  21:08:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Doogle.

I am collecting one Sunday :-)

A few people have said that these will not be bloodred stripes due to low price and most likely diffused stripes. Have you seen Petes bloodred's? What do you think?

Thanks

Gaz


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Doogle
Yearling

United Kingdom
617 Posts

Posted - 28/09/2010 :  21:21:36  Show Profile  Visit Doogle's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have quite a few of petes snakes in my collection and i also have a few ready to be picked up from him at the moment! They are quality snakes mate! Bred from some of the best lines in the uk! Say hi from me on sunday! You are one of a few that will own a bloodred stripe in the uk as not readily avaliable at the mo!

They look a little patchy as hatchling but grow into stunners! I will be produce quite a few next season!

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Gaz_1989
Yearling

United Kingdom
931 Posts

Posted - 28/09/2010 :  21:27:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Awesome.

Cheers matey. Can't wait now!

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Doogle
Yearling

United Kingdom
617 Posts

Posted - 28/09/2010 :  21:47:48  Show Profile  Visit Doogle's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You will defo have to do a progression thread as they change so much between a couple of sheds!

Will need pics!

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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3070 Posts

Posted - 28/09/2010 :  21:57:41  Show Profile  Click to see DannyBrown91's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brookestar

well i may be totally wrong here but... bloodred is a diffused trait so cant be het fire because fire is also diffused :/
i know they slightly different so might be wrong, if so im sorry but would like to know :)



The propper term would be Bloodred het Amel, if it is a true bloodred otherwise Diffused het Amel.

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Doogle
Yearling

United Kingdom
617 Posts

Posted - 28/09/2010 :  22:09:06  Show Profile  Visit Doogle's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DannyBrown91

quote:
Originally posted by Brookestar

well i may be totally wrong here but... bloodred is a diffused trait so cant be het fire because fire is also diffused :/
i know they slightly different so might be wrong, if so im sorry but would like to know :)



The propper term would be Bloodred het Amel, if it is a true bloodred otherwise Diffused het Amel.



Yeah the word bloodred is a selective breed of the diffused morph but now in the uk the word bloodred is associated with all diffused morphs! I suppose we just use it as slang for diffused as its earier to associate a red snake with! I think it would be hard to know if you have a genuine bloodred! I have quite a few bloodreds/diffused and hypo bloods in my collection but without tracing lineage how would you know whats bloodred or diffused?

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Doogle
Yearling

United Kingdom
617 Posts

Posted - 28/09/2010 :  22:26:39  Show Profile  Visit Doogle's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Anyway Gaz! If pete says its a bloodred stripe then it probably is! lol. He has some lovely stuff including some stunning kings and when you see some of the stuff he has you will see what i mean!

I Had some hypo plasmas off him this year and they are the best ive seen!

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Brookestar
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2361 Posts

Posted - 28/09/2010 :  22:40:22  Show Profile  Click to see Brookestar's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
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Doogle Posted - 28/09/2010 : 19:57:50
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Go for it Gaz! They are stunning as adults and the het fire should make it even more red!

When he put Bloodred Stripe het fire it really means Bloodred het Amel as Amel bloodred is fire! I think thats what Brook is saying and she is right! Sometimes people put what it could produce as it makes it easier for the buyer so they know what they can produce when bredding! So you could make Bloodred stripes and Fire Stripes etc!

I think the het will affect the snake and make it even more red!


GRRR i u werent on the otherside of a computer i would hit you lol
i am no she lol my name is ANDY BROOKE :(
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Doogle
Yearling

United Kingdom
617 Posts

Posted - 28/09/2010 :  22:45:52  Show Profile  Visit Doogle's Homepage  Reply with Quote


GRRR i u werent on the otherside of a computer i would hit you lol
i am no she lol my name is ANDY BROOKE :(
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LOL. Sorry Andy didn`t realise i said that! Must be coz i knew a joanne brooke from school! Dont ask? My dyslexia i think!

Sorry mate! Blackened eye for me! lol

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