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chrish
Hatchling

United Kingdom
172 Posts

Posted - 22/09/2010 :  09:50:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Even if they did take all the hides out, which im kinda guessing they didnt by the fact that none come with snakey....im sure ive read on here somewhere that newspaper is bad because of the inks? (or did i imagine that, wouldnt be the first time! lol) and look at the general cleanliness of the viv...not nice.

Good luck smiffy89, i hope you get to it before someone like its present owner does...cant help you with contact details though.

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Sta~ple
qeeun speler

United Kingdom
6129 Posts

Posted - 22/09/2010 :  10:37:10  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I have heard that about newspaper too but it sound like it's coming from over paranoid people. Unless the ink does under the scales somehow I don't think it is them. There are a lot of people that use newspaper and if it was dangerous to them, it would be well known by now.

It does look like another viv is below it so I hope that the hides are going to that animal. It's a shame that the viv wood isn't waterproof really :/



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miss_mystra
Hatchling

United Kingdom
127 Posts

Posted - 22/09/2010 :  11:24:55  Show Profile  Visit miss_mystra's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i saw it said Newcastle-under-Lyme (near stoke-on-trent), i used to live that way and i know there was a phase of chavs getting snakes and abandoning them. We once found a half eaten python round the back of the garages across the road, that must have died in the cold then eaten by foxes etc... so at least this guy is indoors.. hopefully someone has him soon



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miss_mystra
Hatchling

United Kingdom
127 Posts

Posted - 22/09/2010 :  16:34:25  Show Profile  Visit miss_mystra's Homepage  Reply with Quote
aarrghh, this is what i'm talking about right here

http://www.gumtree.com/london/43/65943843.html

"we are selling our cat as we are buying a dog"

why on earth did you buy the cat then?! it's only 1 year old :( poor thing i hope they can't find a dog because they will just be bored of it after a year like this cat.

I wish i had a massive house for all these poor guys :(



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Sta~ple
qeeun speler

United Kingdom
6129 Posts

Posted - 22/09/2010 :  17:19:18  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Maybe she didn't buy them. We have bought none of our 3/4 cats they were all strays.

You have to remember although how frustrating and dumb people are, it's better they are trying to sell them than they end up with the RSPCA or another animal/cat charity.



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gmac
The Scottish Admin

United Kingdom
5319 Posts

Posted - 22/09/2010 :  17:23:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by miss_mystra

aarrghh, this is what i'm talking about right here

http://www.gumtree.com/london/43/65943843.html

"we are selling our cat as we are buying a dog"

why on earth did you buy the cat then?! it's only 1 year old :( poor thing i hope they can't find a dog because they will just be bored of it after a year like this cat.

I wish i had a massive house for all these poor guys :(



You actually see this type of thing on here regularly and on the sister sites, I'm selling my snakes as I am getting a different one.

It really is nothing unusual and as stapey mentioned better they are being sold as being disposed of in any other way


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73 Posts

Posted - 22/09/2010 :  18:07:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I do think that dog licences should be brought back personally, they were around when I was younger, the police would then be able to ask people to produce them and I personally think that chavs wouldn't pay for a dog licence yearly, also if you suspect a dog is being mistreated you can contact the right people and if they have no licence then the dog could be taken away form them.



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Sta~ple
qeeun speler

United Kingdom
6129 Posts

Posted - 22/09/2010 :  18:26:36  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yeh but it's the same as car licence, chav's don't have them generally and only if they do something wrong that is actually seen by someone do they get caught. Most don't. It only punishes the right owners.



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gmac
The Scottish Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/09/2010 :  18:34:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Messymoo

I do think that dog licences should be brought back personally, they were around when I was younger, the police would then be able to ask people to produce them and I personally think that chavs wouldn't pay for a dog licence yearly, also if you suspect a dog is being mistreated you can contact the right people and if they have no licence then the dog could be taken away form them.



So what happens to all those dogs that are already owned and the owners wont pay to license them.

that facility is already in existence



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Posted - 22/09/2010 :  21:53:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah I suppose that could be a problem.

My sister let my 18 yr old nephew get his own dog just after his birthday and it's a staffy which I really don't think he is that responsable to look after, he can't look after himself and my sis does more if the looking after as being a typical 18 yr old he's out a lot, if he'd had to pay for a licence every year and be a named owner I think he would have thought twice about getting one.

I would love a dog, I have done for about 3 yrs now but our Ginger Tom Simba is 17 in march next year and we have always said we will wait till he has passed on till getting one as he deserves to live his last few years with no stress and it would upset him and I wouldn't dream of getting rid of him I took him on to spend his whole life with us.



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Posted - 22/09/2010 :  22:35:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Guys you are going about those who breed for bad idea like fighting and those who abuse but what about Pet shops and BYB (back yard breeders).

A hateful act of cruelty is to breed any animal for profit. I do mean some pet shops too! I went to my local small pet shop and this is where I first saw baby corn snakes and fell in love with them for sale. The guy was keeping them in you know those sandwich boxes... ermmm the reuseable annoying ones, with slits in with a heat rock and a 3 or 4 month old corn snakes for £80.

I mean come on I bought my entire set up with a real heat mat and temperture gauge and snake for less than £100 and just a bit more for delievery from 888reptiles after reading someones post on it. Even though I could have killed the courier! Only had the package/ box with the snake on its side. [___] <---Right way [ ]<----Wrong way.
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lee2308
The Corn Snake Moderator

United Kingdom
3348 Posts

Posted - 23/09/2010 :  00:01:36  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by miss_mystra


Then there's the 'good reason for giving *insert pet here* up' ads. I would sooner starve than sell a pet. If you truly find yourself in a jam and can't keep your animal anymore fair enough, but to put a price on its head and say you need it gone is just heartless. If you get in such a bad situation and family and friends can't help you out at least take it to a shelter not sell them off like some old junk in your loft!!!


I have just had to sale most of my snakes for a genuine reason,because i sold them rather than gave them away make me scum too?


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Kehhlyr
ǝʞɐɔ sǝʌoן

United Kingdom
8173 Posts

Posted - 23/09/2010 :  00:15:11  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Funnily enough, I'm going to be advertising a few snakes in the next day or 2.......

-=Kehhlyr - The Resident Loon

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lee2308
The Corn Snake Moderator

United Kingdom
3348 Posts

Posted - 23/09/2010 :  00:20:44  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
just to add perhaps you should email lewy and kaz and ask them to remove the classified section on here as theres snakes for sale and people want paying,it was a hard decision for me to sale my snakes and im still not sure if i have done the right thing,i didnt mention it on here before as i wasnt proud to be getting rid of my pets which i cared for and spent loads on vet bills ect so some cash in return is only fair and no comfort to me losing my snakes.


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Kehhlyr
ǝʞɐɔ sǝʌoן

United Kingdom
8173 Posts

Posted - 23/09/2010 :  00:32:39  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Weirdly enough I just bought 3 snakes off someone who had to let go of their snakes due to reasons that are not important on here.
The lady of the house that I got them from didn't want to let them go, but knew she had to.
I must be more careful about supporting these people that sell their animals. Obviously selling their animals to people they trust to look after them is a worse option than putting them into a 'rescue' centre where they don't know how they'll be treated even if they're kept alive.

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Sta~ple
qeeun speler

United Kingdom
6129 Posts

Posted - 23/09/2010 :  00:52:15  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Shelters would tell you to advertise it in papers or on-line or, try and sell the animal to a shop as most shelters are overwhelm as it is. They afford to take on animals so if the owner can sell them on it's a better option for them, it saves space for when an animal really needs to go to a shelter.



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miss_mystra
Hatchling

United Kingdom
127 Posts

Posted - 23/09/2010 :  09:54:45  Show Profile  Visit miss_mystra's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lee2308

quote:
Originally posted by miss_mystra


Then there's the 'good reason for giving *insert pet here* up' ads. I would sooner starve than sell a pet. If you truly find yourself in a jam and can't keep your animal anymore fair enough, but to put a price on its head and say you need it gone is just heartless. If you get in such a bad situation and family and friends can't help you out at least take it to a shelter not sell them off like some old junk in your loft!!!


I have just had to sale most of my snakes for a genuine reason,because i sold them rather than gave them away make me scum too?




No i never said that, don't flame me for having an opinion. It's the attitude of the people on there i have a problem with. if it's a genuine reason fair enough, you have to recoup the cost of equipment etc. i haven't got a problem with the classified section either. People breed the snakes to sell, and i would sooner buy one off here than some shop. The ads i mean are where people just put "genuine reason for sale" but then add "must be gone by the end of the week make me an offer" as if the animal is just meaningless.

It's certainly better to sell a pet through a specialist forum like here where the odds are the members will understand how to care for it etc etc than just some random free ads site where anyone will just take it.

With exotic breeds there are more people who collect and breed, so i guess they will swap and sell to expand collections and create new morphs etc. That's fine by me with such vast collections etc there's an expert looking after them who knows what they're doing. it's when you see individual animals being sold because someone is bored of them, that's what upsets me.

it was just my opinion, i never called anyone on here a scumbag. i thought this was a good forum for such a topic for discussion, i'm not asking people to agree with me but it would help if my words weren't taken out of context and making out like i am being hateful towards other members when i aren't. I actually really like this forum and have found it really helpful and friendly.



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