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smiffy89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
342 Posts

Posted - 14/09/2010 :  19:12:31  Show Profile  Click to see smiffy89's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
hi iv rescued a corn snake from a numpty i know. can any 1 give me a ruff age it weighs just under 6grams and its 1ft long(30cm)

BurnedAtTheStake
Yearling

United Kingdom
915 Posts

Posted - 14/09/2010 :  19:19:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All I can say is, thank heavens you rescued it! Let it settle in for a week and then offer it a pinky! I think the fact it's got a good home is more important than age - other members may have a better idea, but snake's safety comes first. Well done and all the best.
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Tiffany-x
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1189 Posts

Posted - 14/09/2010 :  19:24:15  Show Profile  Click to see Tiffany-x's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Isnt that like a really new hatchling that length and weight?
Tiffany-x

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434 Posts

Posted - 14/09/2010 :  19:28:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yeah it sounds like it is (: and least it should have a good home now xx

Megg :) xxx

Creamsickle Corn Snake- Tangoo (Ginge) :)

would love to have a granite corn snake but unfortunately not allowed cuz mum hates snakes haha :P x

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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5853 Posts

Posted - 14/09/2010 :  19:31:27  Show Profile  Click to see herriotfan's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Bless.....poor little thing is only a wee hatchling. Did 'numpty' tell you if it had ever fed or not? How are you housing it? Have you ever had snakes before? Tell us as much as you can so we can help you.....


Husband....Very Understanding!!! (Phil)
Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol)
Granddaughter (Eva)
3.4.0 Cornsnakes Amel (Sidney) Caramel Stripe (Sultan) Amber (Cleo) Carolina (Phoebe) Anery Motley Stripe (Penny) Snow (Lily) Caramel (Holmes)
1.2.0 Royal Pythons(Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
1.0.0 Hognose (Hudson)
2.1.0 Dogs (Dillon, Alfie, Ellie)
0.1.0 Senegal Parrot (Peanut)
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Bonnie & Clyde)
1.0.0 Crested Geckos (Echo)
0.2.1 Hermanns Tortoises (Ebbie, Rosie & Twiglet)
0.1.0 Guinea Pig (Dolly-Pipsqueak)
0.1.9 Tarantulas (Poppy, Gypsy, Bumble, Insey Winsey, Sonic, Cookie, Raven, Fudge, Titch & Sox)
??? Foster animals
Location: Near Saffron Walden, Essex
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smiffy89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
342 Posts

Posted - 14/09/2010 :  19:36:48  Show Profile  Click to see smiffy89's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by smiffy89

hi iv rescued a corn snake from a numpty i know. can any 1 give me a ruff age it weighs just under 6grams and its 1ft long(30cm)

im a gecko n beardie keeper so luckily i have a spare viv
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smiffy89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
342 Posts

Posted - 14/09/2010 :  19:46:37  Show Profile  Click to see smiffy89's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by herriotfan

Bless.....poor little thing is only a wee hatchling. Did 'numpty' tell you if it had ever fed or not? How are you housing it? Have you ever had snakes before? Tell us as much as you can so we can help you.....

its in a secure 3ft viv with a heat mat with carpet insted of substrate temp runs at a a constant 26c in their its got a hiding cave n water dish n a tree branch the lighting in their is only a normal energy saver bulb as iv no 50 watts spare plus didnt know if it would fry the little critter
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smiffy89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
342 Posts

Posted - 14/09/2010 :  19:48:38  Show Profile  Click to see smiffy89's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by herriotfan

Bless.....poor little thing is only a wee hatchling. Did 'numpty' tell you if it had ever fed or not? How are you housing it? Have you ever had snakes before? Tell us as much as you can so we can help you.....

ps they said it has fed but not many times
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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5853 Posts

Posted - 14/09/2010 :  20:09:12  Show Profile  Click to see herriotfan's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Go to our homepage and have a look on the caresheet. It's much easier than if I try to explain everything. Once you've read that if you have anything you need clarifying ask more questions.
Thank goodness you're not totally new to reptiles, it gives you a bit more understanding.
Good luck


Husband....Very Understanding!!! (Phil)
Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol)
Granddaughter (Eva)
3.4.0 Cornsnakes Amel (Sidney) Caramel Stripe (Sultan) Amber (Cleo) Carolina (Phoebe) Anery Motley Stripe (Penny) Snow (Lily) Caramel (Holmes)
1.2.0 Royal Pythons(Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
1.0.0 Hognose (Hudson)
2.1.0 Dogs (Dillon, Alfie, Ellie)
0.1.0 Senegal Parrot (Peanut)
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Bonnie & Clyde)
1.0.0 Crested Geckos (Echo)
0.2.1 Hermanns Tortoises (Ebbie, Rosie & Twiglet)
0.1.0 Guinea Pig (Dolly-Pipsqueak)
0.1.9 Tarantulas (Poppy, Gypsy, Bumble, Insey Winsey, Sonic, Cookie, Raven, Fudge, Titch & Sox)
??? Foster animals
Location: Near Saffron Walden, Essex
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smiffy89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
342 Posts

Posted - 14/09/2010 :  20:14:19  Show Profile  Click to see smiffy89's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by herriotfan

Go to our homepage and have a look on the caresheet. It's much easier than if I try to explain everything. Once you've read that if you have anything you need clarifying ask more questions.
Thank goodness you're not totally new to reptiles, it gives you a bit more understanding.
Good luck

thanx alot every one, nice to find a friendly forum
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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5853 Posts

Posted - 14/09/2010 :  20:20:52  Show Profile  Click to see herriotfan's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
You're more than welcome. Just hope the little guy will be ok. Keep us informed!


Husband....Very Understanding!!! (Phil)
Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol)
Granddaughter (Eva)
3.4.0 Cornsnakes Amel (Sidney) Caramel Stripe (Sultan) Amber (Cleo) Carolina (Phoebe) Anery Motley Stripe (Penny) Snow (Lily) Caramel (Holmes)
1.2.0 Royal Pythons(Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
1.0.0 Hognose (Hudson)
2.1.0 Dogs (Dillon, Alfie, Ellie)
0.1.0 Senegal Parrot (Peanut)
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Bonnie & Clyde)
1.0.0 Crested Geckos (Echo)
0.2.1 Hermanns Tortoises (Ebbie, Rosie & Twiglet)
0.1.0 Guinea Pig (Dolly-Pipsqueak)
0.1.9 Tarantulas (Poppy, Gypsy, Bumble, Insey Winsey, Sonic, Cookie, Raven, Fudge, Titch & Sox)
??? Foster animals
Location: Near Saffron Walden, Essex
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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3556 Posts

Posted - 14/09/2010 :  21:28:55  Show Profile  Click to see kdlang's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Welcome. Well done for the rescue. As already said it sounds like a young hatchling. The care sheet is a brilliant place to start and in the general keeping section i think is a good 101 on how to set up a hatchling. For the meantime tho i think if it is in a 3ft viv i could probably do with more hiding places as it is going to feel very exposed. The minimum is one in cool end and one in warm end. A few toilet roll tubes, small cardboard boxes or plastic plantpot dishes would be perfectly ok.

Edited to add - if you have a viv with sliding doors it might be a good idea to shove some cardboard or newspaper in the gap between the doors as snakes can squeeze themselves into the tiniest of gaps.

4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
0.1.0 cat - Kizzy
1.0.0 Dog - Dobbie
Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire

www.support-dogs.org.uk

Edited by - kdlang on 14/09/2010 21:31:08
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smiffy89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
342 Posts

Posted - 14/09/2010 :  21:46:08  Show Profile  Click to see smiffy89's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kdlang

Welcome. Well done for the rescue. As already said it sounds like a young hatchling. The care sheet is a brilliant place to start and in the general keeping section i think is a good 101 on how to set up a hatchling. For the meantime tho i think if it is in a 3ft viv i could probably do with more hiding places as it is going to feel very exposed. The minimum is one in cool end and one in warm end. A few toilet roll tubes, small cardboard boxes or plastic plantpot dishes would be perfectly ok.

Edited to add - if you have a viv with sliding doors it might be a good idea to shove some cardboard or newspaper in the gap between the doors as snakes can squeeze themselves into the tiniest of gaps.

will do iv got a few spare small caves as iv got no gecko juvis at moment n iv already cut down a spare hand saw sheath and its wedged nicley between the 2 panes of glass plus its clear so you cant even see it once your 3ft away top bannana
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Kehhlyr
ǝʞɐɔ sǝʌoן

United Kingdom
8173 Posts

Posted - 14/09/2010 :  21:55:12  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
6 grams!!! That's incredibly underweight, unless it's only recently hatched.

-=Kehhlyr - The Resident Loon

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Tiffany-x
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1189 Posts

Posted - 14/09/2010 :  22:22:17  Show Profile  Click to see Tiffany-x's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I thought that didnt seem much, but 1ft long isnt actually that long if you think about it, so it probably is a right little bubba.
Tiffany-x

Edit - If its come from a "numpty" its probably been underfed anyway so it probably will be a bit underweight at least Id imagine. :)


Edited by - Tiffany-x on 14/09/2010 22:23:28
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!

United Kingdom
2901 Posts

Posted - 14/09/2010 :  22:47:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Right, this is different, ignore the care sheet for now, theres a few things you really need to do, for its size, its near death, really near, thats lighter than a couple of my babies were when they hatched.
Get a small tub, 12x6 is ideal, hide at one end, water bowl at the other, nothing else, except tissue.
Buy yourself some Critical Care Formula if you dont already have it, mix it with the water and either syringe feed it to him, or keep his water out for a couple of days. DONT try and feed just yet, it probably hasnt fed for a long time, its been starved.
Get a pinky, mash it up and syringe it into him, with ccf water, but not too much, repeat every 5 days.
The ccf will help rehydrate and re engergise him without the need to feed, because in that state, he wont want to feed i wouldnt think.
Once weight is going on, which wont take long, then offer him the smallest pinky you can find, newborn.
If he takes it, great, leave for 7 days, then repeat, if not stick with the ccf water and mushed pinky.
Its not nice mashing a pinky, and its actually quite hard to do properly, but its you best chance for success.
If you have a blender, you can blend an adult mouse with water and ccf, that works, i have done it.
Care wise, you are gonna have to play very gentle, dont take it the wrong way, but dont be surprised if it doesnt make it, they are damn resilient, but only to a point.
Temps keep the same, about 28c, only have the heatmat covering 1/3rd or slightly less, dont over do it, too much heat and he wont eat either.
keep us up to date on whats happening, if you need talking through anything, my number is in my profile.
Good job on getting it off your mate, he would have killed it, if he hasnt already.

Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!

United Kingdom
2901 Posts

Posted - 14/09/2010 :  22:49:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by smiffy89

hi iv rescued a corn snake from a numpty i know. can any 1 give me a ruff age it weighs just under 6grams and its 1ft long(30cm)



Impossible to say, 30 centimeters is usually about 6 months or more, 6 grams is hatchling weight.

Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
10455 Posts

Posted - 15/09/2010 :  08:39:05  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
totally agree with mike's advice on the previous page, fast action is needed, this isn't your typical 'i bought a new snake from a shop/breeder' situation.

cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos

Location:Leeds/York/Selby area
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smiffy89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
342 Posts

Posted - 15/09/2010 :  15:29:00  Show Profile  Click to see smiffy89's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mikerichards

Right, this is different, ignore the care sheet for now, theres a few things you really need to do, for its size, its near death, really near, thats lighter than a couple of my babies were when they hatched.
Get a small tub, 12x6 is ideal, hide at one end, water bowl at the other, nothing else, except tissue.
Buy yourself some Critical Care Formula if you dont already have it, mix it with the water and either syringe feed it to him, or keep his water out for a couple of days. DONT try and feed just yet, it probably hasnt fed for a long time, its been starved.
Get a pinky, mash it up and syringe it into him, with ccf water, but not too much, repeat every 5 days.
The ccf will help rehydrate and re engergise him without the need to feed, because in that state, he wont want to feed i wouldnt think.
Once weight is going on, which wont take long, then offer him the smallest pinky you can find, newborn.
If he takes it, great, leave for 7 days, then repeat, if not stick with the ccf water and mushed pinky.
Its not nice mashing a pinky, and its actually quite hard to do properly, but its you best chance for success.
If you have a blender, you can blend an adult mouse with water and ccf, that works, i have done it.
Care wise, you are gonna have to play very gentle, dont take it the wrong way, but dont be surprised if it doesnt make it, they are damn resilient, but only to a point.
Temps keep the same, about 28c, only have the heatmat covering 1/3rd or slightly less, dont over do it, too much heat and he wont eat either.
keep us up to date on whats happening, if you need talking through anything, my number is in my profile.
Good job on getting it off your mate, he would have killed it, if he hasnt already.

borrowed 20ml of ccf from a friend mashed up the pinky with a small blitzer(ps pinky doesnt taste nice bit splattered on my lip lol)and addded few drops of that ccf it went like a really wet paste syringe it made about 3ml and after a bit of encouraging he had just over 1ml,strange thing is he seems quite active today
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miss_mystra
Hatchling

United Kingdom
127 Posts

Posted - 15/09/2010 :  15:40:43  Show Profile  Visit miss_mystra's Homepage  Reply with Quote

quote:
borrowed 20ml of ccf from a friend mashed up the pinky with a small blitzer(ps pinky doesnt taste nice bit splattered on my lip lol)and addded few drops of that ccf it went like a really wet paste syringe it made about 3ml and after a bit of encouraging he had just over 1ml,strange thing is he seems quite active today



Pleased to hear he's perking up, keep up the good work, hope it all goes well :)



0.0.2 Corn Snakes - Betty (Anery) and Sanchez (Carolina)
1.0.0 - Royal Python - Chancho
Location: SE London
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smiffy89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
342 Posts

Posted - 15/09/2010 :  15:53:17  Show Profile  Click to see smiffy89's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
hi found out my rescue is a baby hypomelanistic spent ages lookin thru single trait photos then my fiance jumped on for 2mins this mornin and found it lol
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