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misspiggy18
Hatchling

United Kingdom
143 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2010 :  12:24:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ive been looking all over the place to buy some aspen for vinnie so i go to a local pets at home and they have said they have never heard of it so i go to a pet shop and they you should never use aspen as it will end upkilling youre snake and tried to sell me wood chips i had to walk out the shop before i punched his smug face in the end i went back to the shop where i brought vinnie from and pick a bag up

2.0.0 corn snakes (Vinnie and Leo)
1.1.0 cats ( jayda and thomas)



Tiffany-x
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1189 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2010 :  13:48:37  Show Profile  Click to see Tiffany-x's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hahahahahaah, no most pet shops dont know anything, I think if anywhere does its a reptile shop but even they dont always know what they are going on about. Lol.
Tiffany-x

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Sta~ple
qeeun speler

United Kingdom
6129 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2010 :  15:22:53  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Aspen is sold at pet's at home but it's expensive. It depends on the pet shop, if they specialise in exotic pets and reps then I would imagine they would have to or they wouldn't get any business. Ones that sell a wide range of animals are the ones that generally don't know diddly.



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ryanred5
Hatchling

United Kingdom
254 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2010 :  15:38:31  Show Profile  Visit ryanred5's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Our local reptile shop told us to put the heat mat under the wooden viv and not inside.

I think if we had done what they said we would have blown the heat mat.

What we've done is put it inside and taped a piece of cardboard over the top and then put aspen on so Tango can't burn himself on it.

Best wishes

Catherine xx

0.1 Bloodred Cornsnake - Phoenix
1.0 Amel Cornsnake - Tango
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23 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2010 :  15:43:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
olny costs me 4.99 for a 10 litres bag full and it said on the bag (prorep aspen bedding is suitable for snakes,some lizards,birds and small mammals.it is soft,dust free,odourless and highly absorbent and is made from non-toxic shredded wood sourced form sustainable forests)its ok get eveywhere tho lol

conor
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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3556 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2010 :  16:21:23  Show Profile  Click to see kdlang's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ryanred5

Our local reptile shop told us to put the heat mat under the wooden viv and not inside.

I think if we had done what they said we would have blown the heat mat.

What we've done is put it inside and taped a piece of cardboard over the top and then put aspen on so Tango can't burn himself on it.



Sounds like your rep shop knows diddly squat. Bet you don't go there anymore. I would suggest though if you really have got tape sticking the cardboard down that you take it off or make sure snakie can't get anywhere near it. There have been some very nasty accidents involving snakes and sticky tape which can possibly result in the death of your snake.

I have a rule when someone tries to tell me something i know is wrong and won't listen to any reasonable arguement. I smile sweetly, say gotta run, and don't go back there again

4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
0.1.0 cat - Kizzy
1.0.0 Dog - Dobbie
Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire

www.support-dogs.org.uk
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ryanred5
Hatchling

United Kingdom
254 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2010 :  17:32:45  Show Profile  Visit ryanred5's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kdlang

Sounds like your rep shop knows diddly squat. Bet you don't go there anymore. I would suggest though if you really have got tape sticking the cardboard down that you take it off or make sure snakie can't get anywhere near it. There have been some very nasty accidents involving snakes and sticky tape which can possibly result in the death of your snake.

I have a rule when someone tries to tell me something i know is wrong and won't listen to any reasonable arguement. I smile sweetly, say gotta run, and don't go back there again



I do go to the shop but just for mice and aspen when I run out, other than that I don't use the shop.

How can I cover up the heat mat and keep that secure so Tango can't burn himself on the mat (it is statted btw on a pulse stat)?

Best wishes

Catherine xx

0.1 Bloodred Cornsnake - Phoenix
1.0 Amel Cornsnake - Tango
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BurnedAtTheStake
Yearling

United Kingdom
915 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2010 :  17:42:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A lot of people use lino. I'm in the process of doing that myself. I got a 7ft x 39ins offcut for a fiver at my local carpet shop and have chopped off large squares which I have laid flat under a heavy rub (not in use) for a few days to make sure they flatten out. Then I intend to cover the heat mat with a bigger area of lino, hopefully fitting snugly to edges of viv. I don't think even the most determined snake could get under that ... anyone with ideas for improvement, please let me know!

One small point. When buying your offcut, choose a piece with a checked pattern. Then when sawing the thing up, all you have to do is follow the lines of the pattern.

I didn't. (Facepalm!)
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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3556 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2010 :  18:15:37  Show Profile  Click to see kdlang's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
To be honest I don't use anything to cover my mats. I was going to use lino but I made a mistake and got the self adhesive tiles so I didnt want to use those. Since the mat is stated and shouldnt get too hot then I don't think it really matters to have something covering it. Mine haven't managed to bury underneath it either.

4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
0.1.0 cat - Kizzy
1.0.0 Dog - Dobbie
Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire

www.support-dogs.org.uk
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ryanred5
Hatchling

United Kingdom
254 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2010 :  23:27:28  Show Profile  Visit ryanred5's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Is your mat loose in the bottom of the viv or have you got it stuck down, if so what did you use?

So many people will say different things about having heat mats covered or uncovered, its hard to know what is right?

One thing I don't want to do is have the mat uncovered and then Tango gets burnt, even though the mat has a stat.

*brain overload lol*

Best wishes

Catherine xx

0.1 Bloodred Cornsnake - Phoenix
1.0 Amel Cornsnake - Tango
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!

United Kingdom
2901 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2010 :  06:35:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A heatmat shouldn't really be covered by anything, hence why you don't put it under the viv.
They need to be able to breathe, having no air movement around it will not help if it overheats.
You can get hotspots which may not be where the stat probe is, resulting in much higher temps than desired.

I don't cover any of my mats in vivs.

Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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ryanred5
Hatchling

United Kingdom
254 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2010 :  09:02:50  Show Profile  Visit ryanred5's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the info about not covering a heat mat up, but what I need to know is do you just place the heat mat loose in the bottom of your viv or do you fasten them down in some way?

Thanks a lot.

Best wishes

Catherine xx

0.1 Bloodred Cornsnake - Phoenix
1.0 Amel Cornsnake - Tango
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!

United Kingdom
2901 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2010 :  11:49:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mine are loose.

Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3556 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2010 :  13:40:45  Show Profile  Click to see kdlang's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Mine are loose too. Just weighed down with the warm hide so it doesn't move about too much

4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
0.1.0 cat - Kizzy
1.0.0 Dog - Dobbie
Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire

www.support-dogs.org.uk
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler

United Kingdom
6129 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2010 :  15:36:02  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Mine are loose. Non of mine have ever gotten under them. Mine are weighed down by the warm hide and like a climbing branch.



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zandefloss
Hatchling

United Kingdom
245 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2010 :  15:45:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I use bathroom sealant, just a few small blobs, becomes waterproof and completely non-sticky. Cheap too!

zan x
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