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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!

United Kingdom
2901 Posts

Posted - 24/08/2010 :  23:39:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BCi is boa constrictor imperator, and bcc is boa constrictor constrictor, also known as true redtails.
out of the 2, bcc's get the biggest, maxing out at about 12ft for a female, and very chunky. I have a 9.5ft surinam bcc and she is huge, not one to have out too often or for long periods because she is so heavy, i would guess, shes about 4 or 5 stone.
Hogg islands are beautiful, i have 2, the female is maybe 6ft and fairly lean, shes not huge at all, the males, well, hes about 12 inches at the mo!
http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10398

Those are my our baby hoggs, they have coloured up a bit since then though, and mostly eating too.

Bci wise, there are a lot to choose from, anything from 40 quid for a bog standard normal, to 6k for something like a moonglow, but most usually between 40 quid and 500 quid for things like albino anery and hypos, jungles too now.
there are many localities too, hoggs, sonoran, amerali, etc.

Dumerils are a boa, but i dont think they are boa constrictor family, but am not sure on that.
interstingly, anacondas are also boas!

It depends on what you want, royals will interact with you, but their appeal may be your turn off, they are not fast, and they are not mega active.
boas can be faster, not cornsnake fast, but quite quick for a larger snake, and they will be active mostly.
you just need to be sure that you are getting a well behaved one, the last thing you need is a 6ft boa that wants to chew your face off, that will tingle a bit!!
a common bci is a very nice snake, all mine bar one are really well behaved, they eat very well and are very intelligent for snakes, and they know it!

Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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Scarlett
Hatchling

United Kingdom
363 Posts

Posted - 25/08/2010 :  00:58:08  Show Profile  Visit Scarlett's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Mike you meanie! Now I want one =[

I'm biased, my Royal was a sweetheart and I was heart broken when he passed away. Which is why I won't be getting another one either for a while, or ever. I'm seriously interested in the Boa's and Milksnakes though, they're all so pretty =]


0.0.1 Amel Corn -Ember.
1.0.0 Bloodred Corn - Loki.
0.0.1 MBK - Apollo.
1.1.0 Cats - Moggy and Pretty Girl.
0.0.1 Royal Python - Odin R.I.P 20/6/10.
Wishlist = Pied Sided Bloodred, Anery Stripe, Coral Stripe, Bloodred, Green Blotched Snow,
Strawberry Snow Stripe.

Location = Chatham, Kent.
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Posted - 25/08/2010 :  07:58:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
mike, many thanks for the reply, very informative, and those hogg babies are just too sweet. I think i can now safely rule out a bcc then, maybe a little large....ha ha.

So at the minute i'm looking into either....

Royal
BCI of some sort
hogg island boa
Dumerils Boa


King snakes are gorgeous, and on RFUK there is someone selling some grey banded babies which are just stunning, but i would really like something a little bigger. I think i'll get a king in the future though....

09 Amel Corn
West Mids
STU



Wishlist - Snow, Anery Lavender, Stripe of some sort, Diffused Caramel, Whiteout, Tessera.

Plus a Royal Python.
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pastie
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
28 Posts

Posted - 25/08/2010 :  08:20:23  Show Profile  Click to see pastie's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i want to get a burmese python but they grow huge and look so beautiful also there was something on the news about burmese pythons needing a licence/permit to keep them?


0.2.0 Common + Amel Corn (Mclaren & Bugatti)
Location: Buckingham, UK
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!

United Kingdom
2901 Posts

Posted - 25/08/2010 :  10:23:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Whitedog, are you near me? you can always come and have a look at my lot, i got a couple of BCC's, 10 or so BCi's, and some royals (i have babies).
Just let me know.

Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!

United Kingdom
2901 Posts

Posted - 25/08/2010 :  10:24:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok, no your not close, shoulda checked first!!

Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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Posted - 25/08/2010 :  12:17:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mikerichards

Ok, no your not close, shoulda checked first!!



pmsl

maybe in future if i'm down your way i can pop in. or i may make a special trip and pick up a corn hatchie whilst i'm there...haha

09 Amel Corn
West Mids
STU



Wishlist - Snow, Anery Lavender, Stripe of some sort, Diffused Caramel, Whiteout, Tessera.

Plus a Royal Python.
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FiestaSTLou
Yearling

United Kingdom
556 Posts

Posted - 25/08/2010 :  12:41:10  Show Profile  Visit FiestaSTLou's Homepage  Click to see FiestaSTLou's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Royals are not boring :p Our royals more micheivious than the corns! hes a delight, some days hes quite lazy others he wont stop! like last night whilst my fella sorted his rub out me and my mum where playing with him in the living room, i was putting him in a old box and playing peeka boo with him :p (yeah im sad but very funny to watch) he loves to climb and explore to, dont be put off royals from what a few people say, as for feeding, it depends on the snake, some can be notorious for non feeding and some can be pigs like our cecil, whos there waiting every sunday for his feed ;) hes never missed one even when shedding lol

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BurnedAtTheStake
Yearling

United Kingdom
915 Posts

Posted - 25/08/2010 :  14:49:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, my royal is already very much of a presence - I got him because I fancied a placid snake that would be like a miniature big snake, and he's nothing like the timid stressy creature I was led to expect. I DID give him a good month with half his viv covered, loads of hides, like you're supposed to, still didn't expect a bold gannet!

Corns and royals rule!

But, Whitedog, if you fancy something really unusual, what about a chocolate milksnake ...?
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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
10455 Posts

Posted - 26/08/2010 :  17:19:05  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
BOAS!!! *drools*

i had a royal and it wasn't for me. but one mans rubbish is another man's treasure (so to speak!) and now Hannahb loves him lol

there are plenty of locality and dwarf boas available........the Sinder faze i have is only expected to grow to about 5ft.
the Dums are my favourites and are gorgeous in every way but are technically medium-sized boas getting to 6ft for a male and potentially 8ft for a female (as a rough guide)

this is Marilyn (pic by magneticble)


she's a bit too big to do this now!


they're a seriously under-rated species and apart from the higher temps and larger viv their care is quite basic

cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos

Location:Leeds/York/Selby area
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BurnedAtTheStake
Yearling

United Kingdom
915 Posts

Posted - 26/08/2010 :  17:42:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oooh they are gorgeous - was looking at dums on youtube - yes and Sinders - they were bred in Wakefield (where I live) read of breeder caught in floods 3 years ago (may it never happen again) they are another gorgeous snake ...

Oh, isn't it great, daydreaming and choosing???
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Posted - 26/08/2010 :  20:39:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
gp.Nice snakie.

I'm completely in love with the Brazilian Rainbow Boa, such a beautiful snake....

From reading i know they get to around 5-6ft, but can anyone tell me how fat they get, will they be chunkier than an adult corn?

09 Amel Corn
West Mids
STU



Wishlist - Snow, Anery Lavender, Stripe of some sort, Diffused Caramel, Whiteout, Tessera.

Plus a Royal Python.
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BurnedAtTheStake
Yearling

United Kingdom
915 Posts

Posted - 27/08/2010 :  21:06:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They'll be much more chunky, from what I see on google. Beautiful snakes!
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