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FiestaSTLou
Yearling
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 18/08/2010 : 10:28:16
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I am pretty naff when it comes to meanings of different morphs ect..
On the small tub that our baby snow came in it says "100% HET Coral Snow" I was just wondering what it meant by that? Iv been looking at websites with different types of corns on them and saw there was a coral snow, and was wondering if that is what i have or is it just a normal snow, either way shes still beautiful, i was just curious 
Also our snow and our amel have like a chequered pattern on their bellys, iv tried getting a pic but my camera is naff and they are to quick lol was wondering if these markings where anything special.
And one last question, my partner wants to make babies with our snow in the future when shes older and we know more about it and more clued up on it all, we are taking our amel saturday to get sexed and hopeing its a He, if a female snow and male amel breed what will the result be? |
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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3070 Posts |
Posted - 18/08/2010 : 11:43:47
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1. Het means that he carries the genes needed to make that morph. Theres no such thing as a snow het coral snow, but the coral morph is a Hypo Snow, so he most likely het Hypo. This means if he was bred with another snake that carried the hypo gene he could make Hypo babies, or other variants which include Hypo. So for example if he was bred with a Coral there would be a chance of Coral babies, or with a ghost there would be a chance of Ghost (Hypo Anery) babaies.
2.Most corns have a checkered belly, off the top of my head the only ones that don't are Motleys, stripes and diffused(this includes morphs which carry the diffused gene eg fires (Amel + diffused). The only difference with your Amel and Snow is that there checkers will be a pale pink - yellow colour. This is because of the Amel gene which means there is no melanin (Black Pigment).
3.If you were to pair an Amel with a Snow you would get 100% Amels dependant on hets. Example there is a chance that your Amel could be het Anery, then there would be a chance you could get snows. |
0.0.1 Ghost Corn - Casper
0.0.1 Diffused Corn - Reggie
0.0.1 Amel Corn - Candy A.K.A Baby
1.0 Commom BCI - Rocky
0.1 Japanese Akita - Sasha
Location: Liverpool |
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FiestaSTLou
Yearling
United Kingdom
556 Posts |
Posted - 18/08/2010 : 11:55:31
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| Thank you for explaining everything :) all alot clearer now :) |
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3070 Posts |
Posted - 18/08/2010 : 22:43:38
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Originally posted by eeji
het coral snow is misleading, because there isn't a gene called 'coral snow'. If its a normal (i'm guessing?) then it would be het amel, anery and hypo.
Its a snow according to the original post, thats why i was a little confused as yo why the tub would say, snow het coral snow, when in actual fact it would just be het Hypo.
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0.0.1 Ghost Corn - Casper
0.0.1 Diffused Corn - Reggie
0.0.1 Amel Corn - Candy A.K.A Baby
1.0 Commom BCI - Rocky
0.1 Japanese Akita - Sasha
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Posted - 19/08/2010 : 15:32:14
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jeeez, there has got to be something somewhere that explains morphs, hets, etc etc in simple english, i've looked on ians vivarium but its still like a foreign language to me. Starting to understand the patterns ie, amel, anery, motley, stripe etc but getting confused with diffused, hypo, snow etc.
I think so many people would benefit if someone was to start a thread starting from the begining and teaching a little more each night/week. might have a chance of being able to get my head round it then. |
09 Amel Corn
West Mids
STU
Wishlist - Snow, Anery Lavender, Stripe of some sort, Diffused Caramel, Whiteout, Tessera.
Plus a Royal Python. |
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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3070 Posts |
Posted - 19/08/2010 : 16:08:08
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Just start off trying to learn the single trait morphs. If you do a search you will find the deffinition of a het, and it pretty easy then.
The only difficult thing is trying to remember all the names of the morphs, but you should get the hang of the more common ones pretty quickly. |
0.0.1 Ghost Corn - Casper
0.0.1 Diffused Corn - Reggie
0.0.1 Amel Corn - Candy A.K.A Baby
1.0 Commom BCI - Rocky
0.1 Japanese Akita - Sasha
Location: Liverpool |
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19/08/2010 : 18:54:37
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| So a het is if it has one of the pair, so if breeding it may match it up with another of the same het to create a different morph.... am I right ? |
09 Amel Corn
West Mids
STU
Wishlist - Snow, Anery Lavender, Stripe of some sort, Diffused Caramel, Whiteout, Tessera.
Plus a Royal Python. |
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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3070 Posts |
Posted - 19/08/2010 : 19:04:57
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Originally posted by Whitedog
So a het is if it has one of the pair, so if breeding it may match it up with another of the same het to create a different morph.... am I right ?
Yep, if you have 2 snakes het for the same gene (eg Anery), then you could have Anery Babies.
Or if you have one snake who is het for Anery and another which is visually an Anery, you could also get Anery babies. |
0.0.1 Ghost Corn - Casper
0.0.1 Diffused Corn - Reggie
0.0.1 Amel Corn - Candy A.K.A Baby
1.0 Commom BCI - Rocky
0.1 Japanese Akita - Sasha
Location: Liverpool |
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180 Posts |
Posted - 19/08/2010 : 19:40:38
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| you say albino is a recessive gene, can you get dominant genes, and if so what happens if a snake has one gene that is dominant and the rest all the same ie normal, will this show normal or as the dominant gene? |
09 Amel Corn
West Mids
STU
Wishlist - Snow, Anery Lavender, Stripe of some sort, Diffused Caramel, Whiteout, Tessera.
Plus a Royal Python. |
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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3070 Posts |
Posted - 19/08/2010 : 19:55:30
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| I think all genes are recessive to normal, but Ultra is codominant with Amel, so if you have a snake which is het for both ultra and amel (Ultramel), you get snake which looks visually different to a normal. |
0.0.1 Ghost Corn - Casper
0.0.1 Diffused Corn - Reggie
0.0.1 Amel Corn - Candy A.K.A Baby
1.0 Commom BCI - Rocky
0.1 Japanese Akita - Sasha
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
United Kingdom
4379 Posts |
Posted - 19/08/2010 : 20:35:08
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In Corn Snakes, almost all genes are Recessive.
Other Snakes like Royal Pythons have many different morphs that are Co-Dominant or even Dominant. |
 
www.theroyalpython.co.uk/forum
Location: Rotherham
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
4335 Posts |
Posted - 19/08/2010 : 21:19:48
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cornsnake morphs:
one morph only is dominant over normal - Tessera
none are codominant with normal
all the rest are recessive to normal
There are also 'allelic' morphs, which means more than one morph lives at the same locus:
Amel and Ultra are codominant, so het amel het ultra is an ultramel
Motley is dominant over Stripe, so het motley het stripe looks motley
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Forum - Guide to Cornsnake Morphs - Punnett Square Calculator - Breeder Directory
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Posted - 20/08/2010 : 00:08:20
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Starting to make sense now, so if you bred an amel and a motley with no hets, it would come out amel....??
So hets are what you'd be after if you wanted to breed some different varieties then??? |
09 Amel Corn
West Mids
STU
Wishlist - Snow, Anery Lavender, Stripe of some sort, Diffused Caramel, Whiteout, Tessera.
Plus a Royal Python. |
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
United Kingdom
4379 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 06:41:26
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| No, not quite, if you bred an Amel and a Motley you would end up with Normals, het Amel and het Motley. |
www.theroyalpython.co.uk/forum
Location: Rotherham
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FiestaSTLou
Yearling
United Kingdom
556 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 12:56:39
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ooo my lmao my head hurts haha!
The tub deffo says (100% het coral snow) it was from DJreptiles stall if that helps? lol i dunno if hes on here? maybe he could explain? :) |
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
4335 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 23:34:17
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thats someone hyping up a snow het hypo to help it sell ;)
for recessive morphs a hatchling needs to inherit the mutant gene from both parents for it to be visual - if only one mutant gene is inherited (which means a normal version is inherited from the other parent) it will be het. Because recessive hets don't have any influence on the look of an animal it will look normal |
Forum - Guide to Cornsnake Morphs - Punnett Square Calculator - Breeder Directory
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Paul82
Egg
United Kingdom
90 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 00:22:49
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sorry to change the subject but what doze 1.1 and 0.1 or 1.0 and sometimes 1.1.0 or that kind of thing mean, coz i see it all the time.
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1.0.0, Rusty (Carolina)
1.0.0, Casper (Snow)
1.0.0, Mitch (miami) he is new but 21 years old.
Princess lady legs (curly hair TARANTULA)
2 Dogs, Bruce (jack russel)
Bella (staffy)
Wish list, Bloodred motley stripe, Candy cane stripe, Childrens python.
Location: Brighton |
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 00:27:41
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| 1.2.3 means 1 male, 2 females, 3 unknown sexes |
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Paul82
Egg
United Kingdom
90 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 01:04:04
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| nice one mate, it makes sence now, cool :] |
1.0.0, Rusty (Carolina)
1.0.0, Casper (Snow)
1.0.0, Mitch (miami) he is new but 21 years old.
Princess lady legs (curly hair TARANTULA)
2 Dogs, Bruce (jack russel)
Bella (staffy)
Wish list, Bloodred motley stripe, Candy cane stripe, Childrens python.
Location: Brighton |
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a few questions....
