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Tatsie-j
Hatchling
United Kingdom
209 Posts |
 Posted - 04/07/2010 : 16:21:02
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right i have lots of questions reguarding heating my new vivs!!!
can i use heat rocks? they look good if not y not?
wiv a heat mat should it have a gap underneath it mine currently havent?? whats the difference between using a light to heat over a mat in regards to how it will affect the snake? im sure there is more questions that will come with the answers lol but help in deciding would b great  |
Anery - Bailey
Amel- Coraline
Normal - Zebedee
Butter Motley - Kitrino
Cats - Danny & Jasper
Location : Lancing, West Sussex |
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hillzi
The Lost boy.
United Kingdom
3984 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2010 : 16:54:20
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Originally posted by Tatsie-j
right i have lots of questions reguarding heating my new vivs!!!
can i use heat rocks? you can but they are notoriously unsafe, and your snake could get severley burnt. they look good if not y not?
wiv a heat mat should it have a gap underneath it mine currently havent?? In a viv, no. But depending where the cable hole is, it may look like its elevated slightly, as my hole for the cable is about 2cm from the floor, so it is slightly sloped.whats the difference between using a light to heat over a mat in regards to how it will affect the snake?matts are prefered as corns get their heat from their bellies, but theres no real difference, as the snake will get his heat from the bulb too as it heats the air and the surroundings, as it warms surfaces, bulbs are generally more expensive, and require more attention, i,e light fittings, the guards and stats can cost of in excess of £30 each, where a matt is £11 for an adequate sized matt, and around £25 for the stat. im sure there is more questions that will come with the answers lol but help in deciding would b great
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HannahB
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
5491 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2010 : 16:59:32
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heat rocks arent recommended with corns - they can burn themselves pretty bad,
what are the vivs made of? if they are wood the heatmat just goes straight into the viv with the stat probs on top, if they are glass then underneath with a slight gap is better - theres an increased chance of the glass cracking if theres not an adequate air flow between the heat and the glass,
personally theres not a large difference between lights and mats - the mats heat the ground surface but the lights heat up the ambient air temp aswell as the surfaces, plus you need a different stat with the lights |
2.0 Normal Royal Pythons - Q and Little One
1.0 Chihauhaun Mountain Kingsnake - Simba
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HannahB
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
5491 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2010 : 17:01:54
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lol im a slow typer so hillzi got there first  |
2.0 Normal Royal Pythons - Q and Little One
1.0 Chihauhaun Mountain Kingsnake - Simba
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luke1989
Hatchling
United Kingdom
173 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2010 : 20:05:11
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Originally posted by HannahB
lol im a slow typer so hillzi got there first
lol whats that, one finger and button at a time typing. same as me |
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Tatsie-j
Hatchling
United Kingdom
209 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2010 : 19:31:57
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| can u not stat a heat rock as they r basically a heat mat wiv a rock on top? think i might go the heat mat route otherwise tho |
Anery - Bailey
Amel- Coraline
Normal - Zebedee
Butter Motley - Kitrino
Cats - Danny & Jasper
Location : Lancing, West Sussex |
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
6129 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2010 : 19:37:11
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| Those heat rocks are more for lizards. They can be quite dangerous with snakes. I'm sure you can stab a heat rock but it's not gonna need one if you use a mat or a bulb. If you want a heat rock, Get a rock, sterilise it and put it ontop on our heatmat or under your light :) |
  
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Tatsie-j
Hatchling
United Kingdom
209 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2010 : 19:40:40
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| thats a good idea suppose it will work the same as well its only coz people keep saying in the wild they get heat from hot rocks i thought it was a good idea! |
Anery - Bailey
Amel- Coraline
Normal - Zebedee
Butter Motley - Kitrino
Cats - Danny & Jasper
Location : Lancing, West Sussex |
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hillzi
The Lost boy.
United Kingdom
3984 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2010 : 20:00:19
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well the hot rock is nothing like that, it's a plastic rock which the whole surface of it heats up,
Pebble's do hold heat incredibly well. |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2010 : 22:16:06
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Hot rocks are bad because the heating elament inside can go wrong and cause the rock to become silly hot. As for bulbs over mats, cost is a big thing, you've seen my 5 foot viv, the bulbs used to cost me 3 quid each, I have been through about 6 in the last year, a heatmat will last years! With the money you WILL save yourself over even 6 months, you can buy yourself a nice shiney dimmer stat, and your temps will be solid all year round!!
As above also, a wooden viv with the mat inside, you don't need to worry about any gaps, the heat can escape through any bedding before its gets to be an issue. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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Tatsie-j
Hatchling
United Kingdom
209 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2010 : 22:49:23
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Originally posted by mikerichards
Hot rocks are bad because the heating elament inside can go wrong and cause the rock to become silly hot. As for bulbs over mats, cost is a big thing, you've seen my 5 foot viv, the bulbs used to cost me 3 quid each, I have been through about 6 in the last year, a heatmat will last years! With the money you WILL save yourself over even 6 months, you can buy yourself a nice shiney dimmer stat, and your temps will be solid all year round!!
As above also, a wooden viv with the mat inside, you don't need to worry about any gaps, the heat can escape through any bedding before its gets to be an issue.
can u use dimmer stats on heat mats then i thought it needed 2 be a mat stat on/off or a pulse?? i have a dimmer stat on my bulb can i just use it on a mat then?? |
Anery - Bailey
Amel- Coraline
Normal - Zebedee
Butter Motley - Kitrino
Cats - Danny & Jasper
Location : Lancing, West Sussex |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2010 : 23:00:31
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| Well I use dimmers on most of my mats and cables, I think I only use 2 mat stats. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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Tatsie-j
Hatchling
United Kingdom
209 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2010 : 23:05:17
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| thats ok then i was told dimmer stats didnt work wiv heat mats thats 1 less problem then! what size heat mats do i need in a 2ft by 1ft viv? |
Anery - Bailey
Amel- Coraline
Normal - Zebedee
Butter Motley - Kitrino
Cats - Danny & Jasper
Location : Lancing, West Sussex |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2010 : 23:13:29
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| Only a small one, I don't know the sizes, but you wanna cover about 1/3rd of the floor space. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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Kellog
the nice one
United Kingdom
7308 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2010 : 03:39:25
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Originally posted by Tatsie-j
thats ok then i was told dimmer stats didnt work wiv heat mats........
I was told exactly the same thing Natalie, but Kellog's heatmat came with a dimmer stat and I have had no issues with it (and his viv is the big one, so a big mat to control). Because of what I was told I did buy a pulse stat when I set Silvesta up, but as I said, I havent had any issues with the dimmer stat at all.
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