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 Posted - 29/06/2010 : 19:22:11
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Hey all.
I just need some advice please, after my normal corn shake died i went out and bought a ghost corn i think she is. Ive had her nearly 1 month and she just will not eat.. Ive left her alone to settle in etc she is very friendly always wants to come out and recognises me very well. Yet no matter what i do she will not eat her pinkie. i have been trying every few days sonot to wind her up etc..
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Fernando Pierre
Hatchling
South Africa
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Posted - 29/06/2010 : 19:47:57
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Hi love bug,
I wanted to know is she drinking? and if not i think u should take her to a vet and seek professional advice.
Rgds and hope she is better.
Fernando |
1.0.0 Snow Corn- Diablo
1.0.0 Ball Python
1.0.0 Tri-coloured honduran - Feta (R.I.P. my love!!!You will never be forgoten!)
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devilsmistress
Yearling
United Kingdom
829 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2010 : 20:20:03
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Next time she refuses leave it a week, No handaling just water changes. Then try her again and if she refuses put the pinki on a plate/lid or something similar put in the viv with her cover and leave overnight NO PEAKING! If its there in the morning take it out and leave the snake another week. Then next time try Braining the pinki (Sliting the skull) and repeat the method above, offer-if refused-leave overnight.
If that dont work come back to us where we can explane some other tricks!!
You could add something called Repti boost to the water if you are worried although unless the snake is losing weight I would not worry to much!
Fernando Pierre Its not a vet job really, Some snake will tak longer to settle down. Kellog's snake went for 13 weeks without feeding! They can be funny things at times and im sure they do it to keep us on out toes!
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29/06/2010 : 20:21:08
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could you tell us a few things so we can help you out,
what are the hot and cold end temps, what type and size of housing is your snake in, you say you are offering every few days how often is every few days, ow old is your snake.
these will help us give you some help.
no need for the vets yet. |
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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3070 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2010 : 20:44:07
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Also you could try varying the way you feed her, Its a long shot but my Boa used to eat fine when i would feed him with my fingers, he then regurged and refused a couple of times. I put the refusals down to the regurge, the two times he refused i was using tongs, i then used tongs the first time and again he turned his nose up at it wouldn't any attention but then when i picked it up with my fingers and wiggled it he took it.
Also Reggie won't eat if you just put the mouse in a tub with him, or in his faun you have to give it a little wiggle infront of him and then he'll gobble it down.
Its probably nthing to do with this and like i said its a long shot but maybe worth a try. |
0.0.1 Ghost Corn - Casper
0.0.1 Diffused Corn - Reggie
0.0.1 Amel Corn - Candy A.K.A Baby
1.0 Commom BCI - Rocky
0.1 Japanese Akita - Sasha
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devilsmistress
Yearling
United Kingdom
829 Posts |
Posted - 29/06/2010 : 21:01:58
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| Its not wise to feed without tongs! If the snake misses you take the bite which makes you jump drop the mouse which in turn could scare the snake and make feeding times alot worse than they already are! My royal wont feed out the viv so I keep him on newspaper and put the rat in, yet I still use tongs to do this just in case he strikes! You would not want to tak a strike from a large snake thats hungry! Both my corns dont care if you wiggle it or just put it in with them as long as they know its there, Nor do they care if they are in or out the viv. A snakes natrual instinct is to eat as they dont know when there next meal is coming so will feed when they can (normally!) Of course stress and fasting can cause them to stop eating not how you offer the food! |
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Kellog
the nice one
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/06/2010 : 04:56:17
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Hi Kelly. I am so glad you got another snake after Shake died, but I am sure that you are very worried about the fact that she isnt eating. My Kellog went 13 weeks without eating when I first got him. That is when I found the forum and by providing them with loads of information they were able to work out that he was in breeding mode and I just had to wait him out.
Devilsmistress has given you some really good advice about how to try and tempt your corn. You definitely need to leave her for a week before trying to feed her again....if you are trying to feed her every few days it will just stress her out. A snake on a pinkie would normally feed every 5 - 6 days, so you dont wont to offer food any more frequently than that.
I also echo Gmac's questions....the more info we have the better we can help. (Sorry if I repeat your questions Gmac, blame it on the brain fog  !)
Do you have any idea how old she is and how much she weighs? If you do know her weight, has she lost any since you have had her? I would guess that you havent weighed her as you have been leaving her alone, but it would be helpful to know so that we can see if she is loosing weight quickly or not. It is a good idea not to disturb her too much at the moment, so maybe try what Devilsmistress has suggested for a couple of feeds (but warming and braining the pinkie straight away) and then weigh her and we can get a better idea of where she is at.
It would definitely help to know the size of the faun/RUB that she is in, how it is heated and controlled, what the temps are, how the temps are measured....you know all this from looking after Shake but it would be good for us to double check it all.
Has she lost condition, as far as you can tell? I know this sounds silly but if you were to cut her in half what would her cross-section be....would it be round (which I doubt as that would mean she is over-weight), an arch (which is perfect) or a triangle (which would mean she is underweight)?
Is she drinking and pooing?
It sounds as though she is behaving normally and is active and friendly. Have you handled her at all?
Try looking at this thread as it may give you some ideas about a non-feeding snake: http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1070
I agree with the others, Fernando was very quick to suggest a visit to the vets. We can certainly try and help you get her feeding first by offering suggestions....and hopefully that will be all you need.
xxx
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Posted - 01/07/2010 : 12:06:43
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Thanx for all ur advice. I've tried leavin the pinkie in the faun. Tried braining, tried all sorts. She was alwaya
drinking. And she did look like she had lost weight. I called the petshop and they told
me to bring her in... He said wud b best if I just picked another snake so I have a new one now |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/07/2010 : 13:21:17
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| Well its good that the petshop took it back no problems. Hopefully you won't have so many problems this time! Feeding without tongs is fine, especially for smaller stuff like corns, however, if you are nervous and prone to jumping then tongs are best. I hand feed most of my lot, mostly because the tongs go walkies all the damn time! |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3070 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2010 : 13:53:56
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Originally posted by devilsmistress
Its not wise to feed without tongs!
I quite often feed mine without tongs, and 3 of them strike every time without a doubt. That said im not too bothered about getting tagged. My lot are only small and Candy gets me almost everytime i pick her up after feeding wether i wash my hands or not, so it wouldn't make all that much of a difference.
Although if your feeding larger snakes it may well be wise to use tongs, but for a baby corn, or pretty much any corn it dosn't make all that much of a difference so long as your not the jumpy type.
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Originally posted by mikerichards
mostly because the tongs go walkies all the damn time!
I have the same problem,im sure they have little minds of their own. |
0.0.1 Ghost Corn - Casper
0.0.1 Diffused Corn - Reggie
0.0.1 Amel Corn - Candy A.K.A Baby
1.0 Commom BCI - Rocky
0.1 Japanese Akita - Sasha
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devilsmistress
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/07/2010 : 14:37:04
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What I was getting at is the OP had a problem feeder and in this instance advising to feed without tongs in my opinion was wrong, If its a non feeder in-experianced owner and feeding without tongs could have made things alot worse. Ok so it turns out the snake got swapped But if the shop had refused to take the snake back.........? My Amel has had a very strong feeding response sonce day one, and made me jump the first few times I feed her and I was using tongs and to this day still do.
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/07/2010 : 15:31:00
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| You wanna come have a go feeding my amel!! Soon as I open her lid she's out with her mouth open! She will bite anything, including the tub, me, anything! Still use my hands tho! Lol |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3070 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2010 : 15:32:22
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I see where you were coming from, i was just trying to give her an idea, like i said this is something that i noticed when my BCI refused, may be purely coincidence, infact it probably is, but you never know.
It may have just been that she was given a problem feeder that maybe didn't feed well in the shop, which must be horrible for an inexperienced owner such as the OP or even myself as i have never had any experience with fussy or none feeders. |
0.0.1 Ghost Corn - Casper
0.0.1 Diffused Corn - Reggie
0.0.1 Amel Corn - Candy A.K.A Baby
1.0 Commom BCI - Rocky
0.1 Japanese Akita - Sasha
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2010 : 15:50:01
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Fussy feeders are a real pain, royals aren't as much of a problem because if it comes to force feeding then they have much bigger heads and can be forced more easily, but corns have a tiny head and its really hard to do.
I had a fussy one last year, in the end I had to mash up pinkies with a spoon and then feed with a syringe. I know the pain of fussy feeders, but sometimes you gotta accept the fact that not all baby snakes are destined to live, sad as it is, in the wild a lot of snakes that were fussy and are now ok would probably not survived. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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KITTYCAT
Hatchling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/07/2010 : 16:14:24
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| yeh its good that the pet shop took it back, they will hopefully be able to get it eating. 2 of my snakes eat no problem one is fussy and eats when she feels like it the other is still force fed n has been for 9mths but is greatly improving ,but it is added stress to yourself when they wont eat. As for tongs one defo needs them as he jumps out his box, one is frightend of them the pet shop owner used to just drop the fuzzys in there viv.the other you could hold it in your fingers till she has nearly finished it shes so gentle. |
1.0.0 carolina corn (herbie)
0.1.0 snow corn (casper)
0.0.1 anery motley corn(diesel)
0.0.1 calafornia banded king snake (ozzy)
0.1.0 royal python (pandora)
0.0.1 boa constrictor (bullet)
1.0.0 weinmaraner (zac)
1.0.0 staffy (zeus)
1.1.0 cats (sophie n pepe)
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Kellog
the nice one
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/07/2010 : 05:41:13
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Originally posted by Love_Bug
Thanx for all ur advice. I've tried leavin the pinkie in the faun. Tried braining, tried all sorts. She was alwaya
drinking. And she did look like she had lost weight. I called the petshop and they told
me to bring her in... He said wud b best if I just picked another snake so I have a new one now
I am sorry you werent able to get your ghost to feed Kelly, but some snakes are just difficult feeders and nothing we try can make a difference unless we are really experienced....and even then they sometimes just wont eat.
I am so glad that the pet shop agreed to take her back and have let you have another one instead.
I have seen the pics of it and it is beautiful ! Such a gorgeous ghost motley - but then I am biased towards ghosts  !! I guess you are still in the no feeding or handling week at the moment....but I bet you cant wait until that is over !
As far as the tongs issue is concerned....as you can see people have different opinions on what is best and what works for them, life wouldnt be life if we all thought the same! But it is just a case of reading the advice given and then working out what works best for you and your snake.
xxx
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