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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 17/06/2010 : 19:16:10
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Originally posted by devilsmistress
Im gonna guess at a sunkissed ultramel. Deffently some kind of amel as there is no black. My only other thoughts wew a fire or lava?
Amel wouldn't have black on the belly checkers. |
0.0.1 Ghost Corn - Casper
0.0.1 Diffused Corn - Reggie
0.0.1 Amel Corn - Candy A.K.A Baby
1.0 Commom BCI - Rocky
0.1 Japanese Akita - Sasha
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2010 : 22:05:08
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T+ works in weird ways, they eyes shouldn't be black on an amel either!
Although the pic shows them as a little red, they aren't. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2010 : 22:08:22
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| I am not entirely sure how t+ works, its a different type of albino, I think t- is regular albino. Its t+ or - something, I can't remember. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3070 Posts |
Posted - 17/06/2010 : 22:39:10
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| I forgot about the eyes because they look a deep red in the pics. |
0.0.1 Ghost Corn - Casper
0.0.1 Diffused Corn - Reggie
0.0.1 Amel Corn - Candy A.K.A Baby
1.0 Commom BCI - Rocky
0.1 Japanese Akita - Sasha
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Kellog
the nice one
United Kingdom
7308 Posts |
Posted - 18/06/2010 : 11:59:49
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Originally posted by Kehhlyr
It's orange and red, with flecks of white and small bits of black underneath.
Far to easy. 
You are getting too predictable Kehhlyr  !!!
I wouldnt have a clue as I dont even attempt to guess at the easiest morphs....but am not surprised Eeji got it right (would have been a shock if he hadnt  ).
It is so hard to believe it is a type of albino....I know it is stereotypical but you always think of albinos as white with red eyes, which I know it totally wrong in snake terms.
Found this quote when I googled Albino - 'Albinism is due to various gene mutations that affect the production of normal pigmentation. True (amelanistic) albinos lack melanin and are white with no markings and with unpigmented pink eyes. Partial (blue-eyed) albinos have some residual pigmentation. There are various degrees of patchy albinism (piebaldism) due to localised mutations in skin cells........
Bluish-grey anerythristic albinos lack the red colour. Axanthic albinos lack the yellow colour. The actual colour and pattern of these animal depends on what other colours are in the pattern. Tyrosinase-negative albinos lack tyrosinase (an enzyme which synthesises melanin) in their cells; this usually produces a pale yellowish or cream animal with pink-eyes. The more common Tyrosinase Positive albino cannot synthesise melanin, but can synthesise tyrosinase, giving a fawn or lavender (platinum) colour.'......but then the site showed this pic of an 'albino' rat snake - http://www.messybeast.com/albinism/alb-reptile.htm. Are they right that it is an albino or wrong?
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
4335 Posts |
Posted - 18/06/2010 : 19:00:03
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t+ is tyrosinase positive which means tyrosinase enzymes are present so the animal still produces melanin (black pigment) so the albinos can still show shades of black.
regular amelanistic is t- (tyrosinase negative) which means tyrosinase is totally absent so its impossible to produce melanin.
Ultra is a form of t+ albino because its on the amelanistic locus in the chromosome but is still able to produce melanin. There's been lots of debate as to whether t+ is actually ultra or ultramel - the last I heard (quite a while ago now - i must keep up!) there was still test breeding to regular amel to see what happened. |
Forum - Guide to Cornsnake Morphs - Punnett Square Calculator - Breeder Directory
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 18/06/2010 : 19:20:41
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| I have both, they are different, there is no black on the t+, what looks like black on the saddle borders is actually faint purple. The ultra has small amounts off black, and quite different eye color too, pics tomorrow. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
4335 Posts |
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luke1989
Hatchling
United Kingdom
173 Posts |
Posted - 21/06/2010 : 17:43:37
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 21/06/2010 : 18:28:39
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It can get confusing when you start crossing things that havent really been done to a great degree! t+ ultra is a project worth doing!
i have a female Ultramel anery! |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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inkiepixie
Hatchling
United Kingdom
445 Posts |
Posted - 21/06/2010 : 20:59:49
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| I am completely lost with most of this conversation, but I actually know the woman who runs Messybeast in real life and she's very thorough with her research so she's probably right |
0.0.1 classic: Bellatrix
0.1.0 anery (het amel): Luna
1.0.0 hypo lavender (het amel ph stripe): Orion
1.1.0 kittycats: George and Pixie
1.0.0 hound: Shadow
1.0.0 husband: Louis
Location: Nottingham
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Posted - 25/06/2010 : 23:09:20
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| I would have guessed Sunkissed lava, but something tells me its a bit more difficult than that ;) |
Corns:
1.2 Butter, 1.1 Blizzard, 1.1 Anery, 1.1 Creamsicle, 1.2 Ghost, 1.2 Candycane, 1.2 Candycane - orange, 1.1 Caramel, 0.1 Snow, 1.0 Carolina stripe, 0.2 Amelanistic, 0.1 Carolina Motley, 1.1 Pewter, 1.0 Lavender
Cornsnake babies: OMGHI! im not even gonna try to keep up ;)
Others:
1.2 Great plains ratsnake (E.emoryi)
1.1 Ball python - Lesser platinum, 1.1 Ball python - Het pied, 1.1 Ball python - High contrast Albino
2.1 Chihuauha mountain kingsnake (L.p.knoblochi) |
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Posted - 25/06/2010 : 23:11:24
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| tells = i figured.. omg i should stay away from posting while ****ed tbh... |
Corns:
1.2 Butter, 1.1 Blizzard, 1.1 Anery, 1.1 Creamsicle, 1.2 Ghost, 1.2 Candycane, 1.2 Candycane - orange, 1.1 Caramel, 0.1 Snow, 1.0 Carolina stripe, 0.2 Amelanistic, 0.1 Carolina Motley, 1.1 Pewter, 1.0 Lavender
Cornsnake babies: OMGHI! im not even gonna try to keep up ;)
Others:
1.2 Great plains ratsnake (E.emoryi)
1.1 Ball python - Lesser platinum, 1.1 Ball python - Het pied, 1.1 Ball python - High contrast Albino
2.1 Chihuauha mountain kingsnake (L.p.knoblochi) |
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Cornsnakeluver127
Egg
United Kingdom
58 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2011 : 11:28:25
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| all right not all of us can speak the secret lanuage og morphs so spit it out what is T plus |
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
4335 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2011 : 18:49:01
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Originally posted by Cornsnakeluver127
all right not all of us can speak the secret lanuage og morphs so spit it out what is T plus
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Originally posted by eeji
t+ is tyrosinase positive which means tyrosinase enzymes are present so the animal still produces melanin (black pigment) so the albinos can still show shades of black.
regular amelanistic is t- (tyrosinase negative) which means tyrosinase is totally absent so its impossible to produce melanin.
Ultra is a form of t+ albino because its on the amelanistic locus in the chromosome but is still able to produce melanin. There's been lots of debate as to whether t+ is actually ultra or ultramel - the last I heard (quite a while ago now - i must keep up!) there was still test breeding to regular amel to see what happened.
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Forum - Guide to Cornsnake Morphs - Punnett Square Calculator - Breeder Directory
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stotty01
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1168 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2011 : 20:42:41
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| is it a orange corn snake....not as in kehhlyrs meaning but as in the morph :P |
my aunties, bestfriends, hairdressers, friends boyfriend had a snake and it stretched out to measure him to eat him......true story.....
1.0.0 tortoise
1.0.0 sinaloan milk snake
1.0.0 jack russel
0.1.0 anery corn medusa
1.0.0 snow corn abomninable
0.1.0 royal python priscilla
http://www.youtube.com/user/stotty01 dads youtube channel
Tail n scales, Linton, Cambs, CB21 4XN, Tel no 01223 893 508 http://www.tails-n-scales.co.uk/
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HERICUS
Hatchling
United Kingdom
106 Posts |
Posted - 13/07/2011 : 20:03:32
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wouldnt be a T+ by any chance would it??
;) like id know that!?!?!?!
nice snake tho, would love to see more pics if possible. |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 14/07/2011 : 16:02:24
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| i can do more pics, however, i dont have anything else that is a little 'different'!!! |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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Heres one for you all!
