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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
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 Posted - 01/03/2010 : 13:26:17
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| Frontline is fine if used sparingly. Use the spray, not the drops, spray a couple of times onto a piece of kitchen towel and allow snake to slither through, avoiding the head. |
 
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/05/2010 : 10:30:29
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Originally posted by Blackecho
Frontline is fine if used sparingly. Use the spray, not the drops, spray a couple of times onto a piece of kitchen towel and allow snake to slither through, avoiding the head.
I have to disagree with this, even my vet has said dont use it on the snake.
Snakes absord through their skin, they absorb the frontline, neat frontline is cabable of killing a snake quite quickly.
There are plenty of safe methods to use on the snake, there is no need to use the frontline on them. Treat the viv and bits and pieces with frontline yes, but not the snake.
I know someone who used it on the snake, and it died quite quickly.
Also, mites cant cope with being frozen, they are a tropical bug, not native at all, they also cant cope with warm temps, over 38 degrees i think, so boiling or cooking is going to kill them. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/05/2010 : 12:45:23
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I have used it a couple of times on my snakes without any sign of issue and know many many more that have said the same, but you are the first that I have heard that has had any problems with it (the spray, not the drops). I'm presuming you had a PM tox screen and it was confirmed that the Frontline was determined to be the cause of death?
Vets will advise against it as it has not been thoroughly tested on reptiles and as such they could be held liable if they recommended its use.
Also, your advise on mites not coping with freezing/boiling is only accurate for the hatched animals, the eggs can survive both. |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/05/2010 : 13:25:15
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I dont know if a PM was carried out, i have never been in that situation having never used it on the snakes.
According to the research carried out, and documented, shown on the the VPI website, all stages of mites are killed below 1 degree C and above 38C for an extended period.
I am not the only one to have heard of problems using Frontline on the snake. There have been many issues with it.
Have a look here http://www.vpi.com/publications/the_life_history_of_snake_mites |
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/05/2010 : 13:49:39
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According to that link you posted, it says 'All life stages are apparently killed by exposure to temperatures in excess of 105 degrees F'. I'd rather be certain when it comes to mites.
Also, I can't see any mention of Frontline or an investigation into it's affects on snakes on that site?
Anyway, an interesting read, as are the two sources of information listed at the bottom of that article, even if some of the data doesn't quite match.
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2010 : 13:51:26
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Apparently we are breathing air.
Its the life cycle of the mites, not frontline. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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mikeymike
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20/01/2011 : 23:08:11
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| So can someone tell me if my snake doesn't have mites is the only way for it to become infested is if i buy another snake that is already carrying them!??! |
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
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mikeymike
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20/01/2011 : 23:24:49
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Yeah cheers but I am so worried bout my snake getting mites...especially hearing how difficult they are 2 get rid of! Im new to the world of snake keeping and know i would panic if my snake got mites especially as her viv is in my bedroom lol.
So have any of your snakes ever had mites? |
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 21/01/2011 : 00:15:59
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| yes my boa has, In all honesty if your snake gets mites it gets mites. Its not the end of the world and is not always all that difficult to sort them out. |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 21/01/2011 : 13:13:08
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| The only problem I have with getting rid of mites is that I have a room dedicated to the snakes, 6 vivs, 1 rack with 20 snakes, another with 6, and another with 20. Also have leos and cresties. That's why I have issues. |
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Benji54
Hatchling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/01/2011 : 13:31:58
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Originally posted by mikerichards
Apparently we are breathing air.
i think thats pretty certain though Morpheus.
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1.0.0 Royal "ophion"
0.1.0 Coastal Carpet Python "Serendipity"
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kerry84
Egg
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/01/2011 : 02:32:20
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| i noticed tonight that my baby corn snake had a mite on it, now he was fed two pinkies, so do i leave him 48 hours before treating him or treat him stright away, im really panicking that hes gonna die i knw that sounds stupid but im worried please help any one ta |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2011 : 07:15:14
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Originally posted by Benji54
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Originally posted by mikerichards
Apparently we are breathing air.
i think thats pretty certain though Morpheus.
Neo x
You missed my point. |
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Posted - 08/02/2011 : 19:19:47
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| hi, im new to this forum ive had my butter corn for 4 years he is the only reptile i have i have had no problems with him feeding and shedding until the last month? he has now refused two meals? not like him but he has not shed for about a month and usually does not eat until he has shed. i have just been reading about ythe mite thing, itching like mad now and have checked jake but can see nothing he is active enough any ideas on what could be the problem?? any help greatly appreciated |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2011 : 23:43:49
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| Jez66, in all honesty, you are better off starting a thread in the health section, this section will get your post missed for the most part. |
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lynn
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15/03/2011 : 18:58:35
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hi just thought i would tell you! we got a 4 month old hypo corn snake 4 weeks ago and we discovered she had mites! we put kitchen towel on floor of her viv and you could see them on paper! we bathed her in water wuth fairy liquid untill we got rid of them all! we got mite spray and did the tank every day aswell! was also told to microwave the substrate to kill off anything in that!! hopefully she wont get them again but we check her every day!! we were amazed that snakes got mites i thought only my dogs and horses could get them!  |
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/03/2011 : 10:46:55
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| What colour are baby mites, are they white and sand in colour and if so, how long does it usually take for them to turn black. And are snake mites quite slow movers or do they hop about like fleas generally. |
   
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/03/2011 : 20:33:45
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| baby mites are whitish yes, they can move fairly quick for their size. as far as i remember, they turn black after their first feed, which is roughly 24 hours after they hatch. |
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