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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
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 Posted - 12/07/2008 : 12:11:48
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If I breed Wiggle (Amel) with and Anery what can I expect, just ghosts or others too?
Sorry, not too hot on the genetic bits and pieces,
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Posted - 12/07/2008 : 12:24:25
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| 100% normals |
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Posted - 12/07/2008 : 12:24:25
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gingerpony
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Posted - 12/07/2008 : 12:51:26
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| I thought you'd get snows unless there's hets involved? |
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gingerpony
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Posted - 12/07/2008 : 12:51:26
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| I thought you'd get snows unless there's hets involved? |
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Posted - 12/07/2008 : 13:01:59
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| this is confusing! I have a male Amel and a female Anery so was wondering the same thing,on this site http://www.kornnatterlexikon.de/index.php?action=6 it says you'd get normals and on Mick's cornsnake progeny predictor it says you'd get snows!?! Anybody shed some light on this |
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Posted - 12/07/2008 : 13:01:59
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| this is confusing! I have a male Amel and a female Anery so was wondering the same thing,on this site http://www.kornnatterlexikon.de/index.php?action=6 it says you'd get normals and on Mick's cornsnake progeny predictor it says you'd get snows!?! Anybody shed some light on this |
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Posted - 12/07/2008 : 13:25:42
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amel x anery = normals 100%
to produce a double recessive morph the genes need to pair up or that gene will not show so would be in het or heterozygous form. a normal het amel has a normal phenotype with an amel genotype.
amel het anery x anery het amel = 1/4 snow.
snow x snow = 100% snow
normal het snow x snow = 1/4 snow
normal het snow x amel het anery = 1/8 snow
normal het snow x anery het amel = 1/8 snow
snow x amel het anery = 1/2 snow
snow x anery het amel = 1/2 snow
the chances of producing a snow from the above pairings depend on the chances of amel + anery being able to pair up so there is a copy of amel + anery from one parent & a copy of amel + anery from the other. so four copies 2 amel + 2 anery. which is a double recessive colour morph, in this case snow.
phenotype = visual trait
genotype = hidden trait (het)
% of outcomes are per 'egg' NOT per 'clutch' so 50% chance of snow means 50% chance each egg from the entire clutch will be snow not half the entire clutch will be snow. so you could get ALL snows if you're lucky or you could get none - that would be very unlucky, but possible. |
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Posted - 12/07/2008 : 13:25:42
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amel x anery = normals 100%
to produce a double recessive morph the genes need to pair up or that gene will not show so would be in het or heterozygous form. a normal het amel has a normal phenotype with an amel genotype.
amel het anery x anery het amel = 1/4 snow.
snow x snow = 100% snow
normal het snow x snow = 1/4 snow
normal het snow x amel het anery = 1/8 snow
normal het snow x anery het amel = 1/8 snow
snow x amel het anery = 1/2 snow
snow x anery het amel = 1/2 snow
the chances of producing a snow from the above pairings depend on the chances of amel + anery being able to pair up so there is a copy of amel + anery from one parent & a copy of amel + anery from the other. so four copies 2 amel + 2 anery. which is a double recessive colour morph, in this case snow.
phenotype = visual trait
genotype = hidden trait (het)
% of outcomes are per 'egg' NOT per 'clutch' so 50% chance of snow means 50% chance each egg from the entire clutch will be snow not half the entire clutch will be snow. so you could get ALL snows if you're lucky or you could get none - that would be very unlucky, but possible. |
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
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Posted - 12/07/2008 : 14:00:50
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| Cheers MM, so if I was after something other than 'normals' (don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with any Corn) what would be the best partner for Wiggle in your opinion? |
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
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Posted - 12/07/2008 : 14:00:50
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| Cheers MM, so if I was after something other than 'normals' (don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with any Corn) what would be the best partner for Wiggle in your opinion? |
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
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Posted - 12/07/2008 : 14:01:52
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Originally posted by lindsei
this is confusing! I have a male Amel and a female Anery so was wondering the same thing,on this site http://www.kornnatterlexikon.de/index.php?action=6 it says you'd get normals and on Mick's cornsnake progeny predictor it says you'd get snows!?! Anybody shed some light on this
Don't worry, you're not the only one confused, can't wait to see how yours turn out. |
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
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Posted - 12/07/2008 : 14:01:52
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Originally posted by lindsei
this is confusing! I have a male Amel and a female Anery so was wondering the same thing,on this site http://www.kornnatterlexikon.de/index.php?action=6 it says you'd get normals and on Mick's cornsnake progeny predictor it says you'd get snows!?! Anybody shed some light on this
Don't worry, you're not the only one confused, can't wait to see how yours turn out. |
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Posted - 12/07/2008 : 14:37:43
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Well assuming Wiggle isn't het for anything;
Amel x Amel = 100% Amel
Amel x Snow = 100% Amel het Anery
Amel x Blizzard = 100% Amel het Charcoal
Amel x Coral Snow = 100% Amel het ghost
Amel x Champagne Snow/Snopal = 100% Amel het Anery + Lavender
Amel x Ultramel = 50% Ultramel + 50% Amel
Amel x Ultra = 100% Utramel
Amel x Butter = 100% Amel het Caramel
There's a few, basically anything containing Amel except for Utra/Ultramel - that'll confuse you lol.
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Posted - 12/07/2008 : 14:37:43
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Well assuming Wiggle isn't het for anything;
Amel x Amel = 100% Amel
Amel x Snow = 100% Amel het Anery
Amel x Blizzard = 100% Amel het Charcoal
Amel x Coral Snow = 100% Amel het ghost
Amel x Champagne Snow/Snopal = 100% Amel het Anery + Lavender
Amel x Ultramel = 50% Ultramel + 50% Amel
Amel x Ultra = 100% Utramel
Amel x Butter = 100% Amel het Caramel
There's a few, basically anything containing Amel except for Utra/Ultramel - that'll confuse you lol.
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
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Posted - 12/07/2008 : 17:43:00
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anery het snow means anery het amel. It's just if the anery het 'snow' is crossed to something with amel & anery in it's phenotype, genotype or mix of both, then it will produce snow
Anery cannot be 'het snow' really as snow IS anery (+ amel)
the answer to your Q. is 100% amel het aney.
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Posted - 12/07/2008 : 17:43:00
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anery het snow means anery het amel. It's just if the anery het 'snow' is crossed to something with amel & anery in it's phenotype, genotype or mix of both, then it will produce snow
Anery cannot be 'het snow' really as snow IS anery (+ amel)
the answer to your Q. is 100% amel het aney.
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