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Posted - 09/06/2008 :  16:59:36  Show Profile
Hi newly registered on here but been reading a lot, but I have a problem that maybe you guys and gals can help me with.

OK, so my 18 year old stepson decides he wants a snake approx 4 months back so he bought a baby cornsnake and one of those starter Vivs (the plastic ones). Now he has kept ruby(cornsnakes name) up in his room. Recently he moved away from home, and kinda lumbered us with the snake. Now Im not cruel to animals (I have 5 dogs, a Parrot and a cat), so we went out and bought a decent 3 ft viv on a stand with a UV light ect, we funished it to make it look natural as we could, and placed the plastic viv inside the bigger one with the lid off so ruby could aclimatise as she saw fit and make her own decision on where to go ect, within 15mins of being in the viv she was out and about exploring ect and seemed quite at home and because of the walm weather was sleeping at the cool end of the viv, so we moved her small hide hole there, and she has been eating Very well.

Now here is the problem, My partner, Sons Mother, just put hand in Viv and Ruby has Bit her, and she has had a lunge at me before now. This is leading us to being frightened of Ruby, and we could really do with some advice.

Thanks in advance

Shadowdragon.

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Posted - 09/06/2008 :  17:06:58  Show Profile  Click to see saddleninja's MSN Messenger address  Send saddleninja a Yahoo! Message
has she handled a mouse before she put her hand in, did she put her hand slow, fast or jerky

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Posted - 09/06/2008 :  17:11:16  Show Profile
no hasnt handled a mouse beforehand, she didnt go slow she just put her and in at a speed you would reach to get something i suppose, but ruby does tend to rear up when u come close slow or not. Do you think it would be better putting her back in the small viv for now shes about a foot long atm maybe an inch or two bigger.
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Posted - 09/06/2008 :  17:50:36  Show Profile
They dont like it if you go for thier heads, so make your presence known and scoop her up from about 1/3 down from her head. If you allready do that then i have no clue 0_0

Lol sorry i wasent much help....
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Posted - 09/06/2008 :  17:57:10  Show Profile
Thats what we try to do (well in theory anyway) soon as we put hands near she coils up and rears her head.
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Posted - 09/06/2008 :  18:50:46  Show Profile
hi there and welcome,

chester bit me a week or so back cos i handled his food then went near him. the bite is painless but makes your very wary. chester started to rear up the next few times a went near him and looked like he was going to strike, i remained confident and went straight for him round his middle and picked him up with no problems.
i think that if you start to hesitate wen going for him/her they will sense it and rear up. so be confident (remember it doesnt hurt or even break the skin)

as for the putting him in a 3 foot viv at 4 months wen he/she is only a foot or so is not a good idea. they like tight enclosed spaces so this might beone of the reasons he/she struck,, feels vunerable.
i put chester in a 3 foot viv wen he was 9 months and just over 2 1/2 foot and i was scared this was a little to early but he has settled in well

this is only my oppinion as i am in my first year of keeping corns and pretty new to it also.

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Posted - 09/06/2008 :  19:19:35  Show Profile
Sounds like the snake hasn't been handled very much by it's reaction to your presence. Just try to keep handling or even putting your hand flat or in a fist just near the snake for under a minute or something. Once the snake slowly gets used to you being near it & realizes you're not a threat then it should calm down, babies & youngsters will defend themselves in which ever way they can, either slither away fast & hide or remain coiled & strike. They will also vibrate their tails to mimic the sound of a rattle snake. You can also try leaving an item of clothing in the viv for the snake to get used to your scent.
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Posted - 09/06/2008 :  19:25:29  Show Profile
Dont know if this is benifit to anyone or this thread but i read in my corn snake book that a viv should be just over half the size of the snake as they prefer tight areas, so if you have a 4ft corn you should have it in a 2 to 3 ft viv, my Kirk is about 2ft i think and he is still in his 1 ft approx. viv and although he can nearly stretch all way round ive been told he should be happy there for 6 months to a year, though i might get a bigger viv sooner.

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Posted - 09/06/2008 :  19:38:19  Show Profile
If its the actual bite part that is the main corncern, wear some decent gloves and attempt to handle him as you would normaly. Hopefuly he will get used to the idea and when you feel confident you can handle him without the gloves.

Edit = spelling (does anyone go to type something, post it, and then realised they typed a completly differant word! :s)


Edited by - matty18714 on 09/06/2008 20:58:24
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Posted - 09/06/2008 :  19:44:13  Show Profile
thanks to all above for the advice, ill give it another try, but not today I think ruby is stressed enought at the moment I will transfer her to her smaller viv, hopefully then she will not feel as threatened.

Again thanks to all for the help its very much appreciated.
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Posted - 09/06/2008 :  20:55:13  Show Profile  Click to see saddleninja's MSN Messenger address  Send saddleninja a Yahoo! Message
don`t worry the strike is worse than the bite, put some gloves on and keep trying

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Posted - 11/06/2008 :  11:36:44  Show Profile
Just wanted to say thank's again to you all for your advice. We have now put her back in the small viv . My OH wore gloves to handle her tho as still abit wary of a bite.
Ruby is looking a bit " milky " again so think she is going to shed again.

Thank's again , glad i found the forum. No doubt i will be popping in and out now so that i can gain knowledge from you all as what is best for Ruby.
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Posted - 19/06/2008 :  22:11:36  Show Profile
Hi Everyone, i'm new to the forum (this is my 1st post!) i've had my corn snake for a year now (his name is Bruce) and he is the 1st corn snake i've had as a pet. i remember the first time he bit me, and i can tell you that it made me scream lol, it didn't hurt, it just made me jump because they strike so fast. it made me wary of handling him afterwards but ive found that if you get bitten while handling your corn snake, don't just put them back into the viv, but keep handling them and make sure you always end on a good note if you know what i mean. if your corn realises that when they bite they will be left alone then they are gonna bite all the time.
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Posted - 19/06/2008 :  22:12:34  Show Profile
Hey shibby, welcome to the forum!

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Posted - 19/06/2008 :  23:22:53  Show Profile
shibbymcpot - DUDE where's my car ? (sweet).
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