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heatseeker872591
Hatchling
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 25/02/2009 : 12:41:31
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an online friend of mine has owened a pair of boas for a while. (not housed together) male and female, he bought them at a fair size , and bought em from someone who didnt know how to care for them properly and the female was in very poor condition, she was very skinny and had some sort of skin trouble, he took her to a vet but there wasnt much the vet could do for her. and she never seemed to get better/
last night my friend told me he woke up in the morning and found her dead in her viv. he said her body had a disgusting smell and had to cover his mouth when he was burying her.
i thought thats strange if she had died in the night her body must have started to rot at a nfast rate for it to cause a strong smell??
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Jono2411
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/02/2009 : 12:43:17
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| she could have been infected with parasites... |
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heatseeker872591
Hatchling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/02/2009 : 13:01:46
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| so your saying that the smell could not have been decomposing but parasites? |
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Jono2411
Yearling
United Kingdom
639 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2009 : 13:37:19
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| possibly decomposition caused by parasites... i dont know tho... just a guess |
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Kazerella
The Corn Snake Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/02/2009 : 13:43:20
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| Sounds like she wasn't very well- who knows what could have been going on inside her. Could have been parasites, but disease could have made things bad inside already. |
 
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Posted - 25/02/2009 : 16:33:56
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| Wouldnt the heat in the viv cause the body to rot faster, and cause a smell? |
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Jennet
Hatchling
United Kingdom
305 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2009 : 21:12:14
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| Would imagine as Emma said, if snake was lying on heat mat, or was in warmer area of viv, decomp would occur far quicker.... just think how meat smells if left out of fridge in warmer place etc., plus if nasties already present in system, then bacteria will multiply / smell much quicker than normal tissue. |
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Ell
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/02/2009 : 22:16:13
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| Most dead things smell. Even taking a small fish out of a tank reeks. Its no suprise a snake should smell bad, especially in a warm viv. |
 
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/02/2009 : 20:31:32
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Originally posted by EmmaApple
Wouldnt the heat in the viv cause the body to rot faster, and cause a smell?
particularly if she was under/on the heatsource, think how strong a heated mouse can smell very quickly!  |
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Paulusworm
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
686 Posts |
Posted - 27/02/2009 : 06:47:00
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Sorry to hear about that. I don't know a lot about boas but decomposition is my thang. What environmental conditions was the boa in? I need to know a)The humidity and b) the temperature.
Let me know and I should be able to give you an answer  . |
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lee2308
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/02/2009 : 09:38:38
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Was wondering where you were paul,was thinking paulusworm will answer this first  |
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Posted - 27/02/2009 : 10:38:53
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| yeah the combination of the humidity and the heat would speed evrything up by many times since the bacteria become faster at multiplying and so more will exist in such conditions over a short amount of time so could well explain the smell. example; many becteria divide at a rate of every 20 minutes in a warm environment. lets say there were five hours of the snake being dead and 10,000 bacteria to start with. 10,000 --> 20,000 --> 40,000 --> 80,000 --> 160,000 --> 320,000 --> 640,000 --> 1,280,000 --> 2,360,000 --> 4,720,000 --> 9,440,000 --> 18,880,000 --> 37,760,000 --> 75,520,000 --> 151,040,000 --> 302,040,000. so in 5 hours bacteria could grow from 10,000 to 302,040,000. easy to see how the snake could smell. I remember doing such experiments with e.coli on petri dishes and just overnight id would swarm the plate, was amazing. |
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Paulusworm
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
686 Posts |
Posted - 27/02/2009 : 18:35:15
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Originally posted by lee2308
Was wondering where you were paul,was thinking paulusworm will answer this first
Been busy with my final year project write up. Sorry . |
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Paulusworm
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
686 Posts |
Posted - 27/02/2009 : 18:36:34
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Originally posted by Brad Hogan
yeah the combination of the humidity and the heat would speed evrything up by many times since the bacteria become faster at multiplying and so more will exist in such conditions over a short amount of time so could well explain the smell. example; many becteria divide at a rate of every 20 minutes in a warm environment. lets say there were five hours of the snake being dead and 10,000 bacteria to start with. 10,000 --> 20,000 --> 40,000 --> 80,000 --> 160,000 --> 320,000 --> 640,000 --> 1,280,000 --> 2,360,000 --> 4,720,000 --> 9,440,000 --> 18,880,000 --> 37,760,000 --> 75,520,000 --> 151,040,000 --> 302,040,000. so in 5 hours bacteria could grow from 10,000 to 302,040,000. easy to see how the snake could smell. I remember doing such experiments with e.coli on petri dishes and just overnight id would swarm the plate, was amazing.
What you studying then Brad? |
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Posted - 28/02/2009 : 10:20:01
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| I did human biology and double A-level sciences for A-levels. got one of the top five grades in the country for the double sciences which was really kl. then i went to uni and started doing forensic science and law but forensics was so so boring so dropped that and did single law but finished first year and started second but found I wasn't doing enough work cos I had to work 20 hours a week as well which is a hell of a lot with a law degree as well. im moving to a uni closer to home though so I can commute. |
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Paulusworm
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
686 Posts |
Posted - 28/02/2009 : 17:08:08
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Originally posted by Brad Hogan
I did human biology and double A-level sciences for A-levels. got one of the top five grades in the country for the double sciences which was really kl. then i went to uni and started doing forensic science and law but forensics was so so boring so dropped that and did single law but finished first year and started second but found I wasn't doing enough work cos I had to work 20 hours a week as well which is a hell of a lot with a law degree as well. im moving to a uni closer to home though so I can commute.
Can totally understand the boredom with forensic science as a whole. If you've got a strong stomach, like me, do forensic biology. I graduate this year and I've gotta admit it has been fun. Hard work but fun.
Heatseeker: In answer to you question. What Brad said |
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Posted - 01/03/2009 : 10:06:26
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| cheers for the advice. I was hoping it was going to be more biological but it was basically chemistry with a new name which I don't mind but the course was all the same and non of it was hands on. deabting whether or not to do law now though as my passion is really in my animals. I've already got a mini zoo at my house with 20 pets but I know that there really is no money at all in it. |
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Paulusworm
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
686 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2009 : 09:17:43
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I've focused on forensic entomology for my final year research project. Got offered the chance to do a PhD with my theory but can't really afford to at the moment. Gutted. One of my friends is studying for his PhD at the moment and he's carrying on the research for me. I got referenced for the first time a few ago. Haha.
Where abouts in the UK are you? I can definately recommend the course at University of Portsmouth. Many of the academic staff used to do the job before they became academics. My Australian (never mind  )supervisor worked on numerous murder cases in South Africa and Australia before she came to the UK. The guy that lectures Interpretation of Forensic Evidence was a senior SOCO in Leicestershire for 17 years before he came to teaching. There's also another lecturer who is like the Budda of forensic biology. He knows eveything!
Handed in the first draft of my thesis yesterday so I should be back on here a bit more often now  |
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Posted - 04/03/2009 : 11:28:50
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| Very kl, it'd be kl to be a Dr ;) to be honest I have been put off forensics and at the moment im debating whether to carry on with law or to change and study something to do with animals. |
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hillzi
The Lost boy.
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/03/2009 : 19:46:09
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| She mightv'e been loaded with maggots, or disease the disease if there was one mightv'e rottd her flesh. |
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Posted - 09/03/2009 : 21:53:17
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Originally posted by Brad Hogan
Very kl, it'd be kl to be a Dr ;) to be honest I have been put off forensics and at the moment im debating whether to carry on with law or to change and study something to do with animals.
do what ever you think is right, you can get a lot out of law, but working with animals is very rewarding |
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