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 anyone been on the morph bible recently?
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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
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Posted - 29/12/2008 :  21:57:45  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address
the latest stats say '229 photos of 156 different morphs'

i've spent half an hour or so looking through the pics (i like looking at pretty snakes, working out the genetics and finding out what weird and wonderful new morphs have appeared) but it got me thinking, a lot of the colour morphs are starting to look quite similar, particularly if you allow for and natural variation in the intensity of the colour.
just looking at the yellow-based morphs:
amber
butter
caramel
diffused amber
diffused butter
diffused caramel
honey
hypo butter
sulphur
topaz

visually a particularly light or dark or bright example of one morph could easily be mistaken for another but a mistaken identity could wreek havoc for somebody's breeding programme.

no idea where i'm going with this train of thought but comments and thoughts welcome

cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos

Location:Leeds/York/Selby area

Edited by - gingerpony on 29/12/2008 21:58:37

Kazerella
The Corn Snake Admin

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Posted - 30/12/2008 :  11:20:52  Show Profile  Visit Kazerella's Homepage
I just like the pretty colours GP



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matty18714
The Count of Corniness

United Kingdom
4428 Posts

Posted - 30/12/2008 :  12:46:19  Show Profile
Im starting to think people are trying to make alot more of what they have. For example a snow thats a fraction whiter than another one and people look to claim it as something else.

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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/12/2008 :  19:48:13  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address
genetically it probably is different though visually it's 'another snow'

so there's more than one way to make a particular coloured snake........... something about skinning and cats??

and that's not even taking into consideration people giving old morphs new names............

cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos

Location:Leeds/York/Selby area
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Ell
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1640 Posts

Posted - 01/01/2009 :  13:53:25  Show Profile  Click to see Ell's MSN Messenger address
I've seen alot that look alike also (I like looking at pics to :P).
I think people make same morphs and just name them differently to sell them lol.



1.0.0 Normal corn snake - Dusk
0.1.0 Strawberry Snow Stripe corn snake - Dawn
0.1.0 Harlequin Crested Gecko - Stickles
1.0.0 Sable Syrian Hamster - CoCo
0.1.0 Hognose snake - Truffles
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Karl
Hatchling

United Kingdom
121 Posts

Posted - 01/01/2009 :  22:16:55  Show Profile
Speaking to a few shops lately and they are all remarking on the amount of non feeding corn snakes they have. They are blaming the OVER creation of morphs, and the increased number of siblings bred to parents etc.
Can't be right the amount of inbreeding some less reputable breeders are doing to create more and more "specialised" morphs quicker

ooops, I bought another.........
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Ell
Sub Adult

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Posted - 02/01/2009 :  12:40:20  Show Profile  Click to see Ell's MSN Messenger address
Yeah, there is a tendancy for people to rush these things which destroys genetic diversity and causes problems.

Im not saying morphs are wrong but if done slowly there would definantly be less damage.



1.0.0 Normal corn snake - Dusk
0.1.0 Strawberry Snow Stripe corn snake - Dawn
0.1.0 Harlequin Crested Gecko - Stickles
1.0.0 Sable Syrian Hamster - CoCo
0.1.0 Hognose snake - Truffles
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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
10455 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2009 :  20:01:07  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address
good points everyone, this is what i wanted when i started this thread, other people's opinions and input............ not that we can change the corsnake world, lol

cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos

Location:Leeds/York/Selby area
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Ell
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1640 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2009 :  14:20:15  Show Profile  Click to see Ell's MSN Messenger address
It's a shame really as at this rate, most of these beautiful morphs won't be viable after a few generations time :(



1.0.0 Normal corn snake - Dusk
0.1.0 Strawberry Snow Stripe corn snake - Dawn
0.1.0 Harlequin Crested Gecko - Stickles
1.0.0 Sable Syrian Hamster - CoCo
0.1.0 Hognose snake - Truffles
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