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Tizzy
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 12/12/2008 : 22:12:05
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Rover is losing weight, his tail was getting thinner so i stated weighing him 2/12/08 46g now down to 41g (i know 5g is not much but it's still 10% of his bodyweight)- been tempting him all i can with wax worms, mealies, and baby locusts but he's not interested. Trying to put off a vet trip as long as i can as he wont eat for weeks after being moved (learnt my lesson when he went in for boarding in the summer) any ideas? Felix (who he lives with) is fine. No weight loss and pooing a plenty. Other than the weight loss he has no other symptoms and is shedding fine and eating that as far as i know. I was thinking about separating them but i'm worried that may stress him more.
Any ideas? any more info needed i've forgotten to say just ask.
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Lewy
The Corn Snake Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/12/2008 : 13:03:27
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Hi Tizzy - Check the temps? could be that he's not hot enough and doesn't want to eat because hew won't be able to digest. the other leo could be hogging the hot spaces? Give it a try and keep weighing. Have you tried crickets as well? some times the fast movement can cause a feeding response.
Don't have leos myself, but snakes and the toads can be similar if they are too cold. Hope this helps... maybe dazb or someone with leos will be able to help more. |
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dazb
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/12/2008 : 20:55:08
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hi there,
same as above really.
wot are the temps?
wot size viv is it?
wot sex are they? (male and male is bad...)
i would initially seperate them. one my be bullying the other and not letting him feed. plus if it is a illness of some sort you want him in quarantine so it does not effect the other. |
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Edited by - dazb on 13/12/2008 20:56:04 |
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
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dazb
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
1278 Posts |
Posted - 13/12/2008 : 21:20:39
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thats wot i was thinking BE...
it is a big no no to have 2 males in the same viv, as this can lead to bullying and often fighting (sometimes to the death)... |
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Tizzy
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15/12/2008 : 19:07:56
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Sorry guys should said, Felix is a Girl, Rover is a boy. (sexed by a pro who i very much trust with my Reps) The viv is 2'8" X 1'8" Hot end sits at around 86 cool end around 80. They have a wet box of moss plus 2 other hides at each end but generally curl up together. They always have baby locusts in the viv (with a lump of apple to stop them nipping) and mealies available in a high sided dish so i dont think bullying is an issue (they've been together since the 12/08/08) If anything Felix is the shy one.
Cheers Lewy, I will pick up some crickets tomorrow and give them a try however they don't normally eat em thats why i moved over to hoppers.
Dazb - I have a starter tank and little heatmat that one of the corns came in so sepearating them isn't a problem but i don't want to stress them out anymore. If i do split them up who should i move?
(Sorry about the gender confusion, i'm a bit daft like that. I Have a daughter called Ronnie and used to have a female cat called Roger) |
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dazb
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/12/2008 : 15:48:41
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since rover is the boy and losing weight im not sure...
if it was the girl i would have said she was probably getting pestered to mate but now im not so sure.
i would definately take the sick one out of the viv and put it in its own, one cos it is obviously not liking it in that viv for wotever reason and it might feel better on its own in a viv it can mark as its own, also cos the other one is doing ok so dont upset her by moving her.
how old are they?
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Tizzy
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/12/2008 : 17:41:01
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Weird isn't it? I've been trying to get advice from a few people but everyone is pretty stumped, I'm told the vet could try a blood test but these are often pretty useless and the shock of test could make him drop his tail or even croak it.
Not 100% sure how old either one is really but we think they are just over a year. Rover was re-homed to me by some teenagers parents when he lost interest and stopped looking after him. Then he went in for bording when i was on holiday and was introduced to felix for me by the guy in the shop. They got on fine so i bought her. They are the same size and neiter has grown much since i got them. They are pratty small for leos but have had no problems at all. They are even litter trained and only poo on the paper in the corner of their viv.
I'm thinking it's a case of wait and see to be honest. I'm going to put Rover in the starter viv tonight once the kids are in bed and it's a bit quieter and he's a bit more awake.
Cheers for the help, any other ideas gratefully recieved. |
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dazb
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/12/2008 : 18:33:09
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no problems...
keep us posted... |
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Jennet
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Tizzy
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
1202 Posts |
Posted - 18/12/2008 : 18:55:08
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| Good news on this, (i did seperate the leo's but the poorly one was really unhappy trying to get out hunting round the viv looking for his girl so i put them back togather again) Then today noticed his tail was lookin plumper so i stuck him back on the scales - 45g. Well happy now! He's been out exploring too coz i did a full clean out and moved everything around and generally looks really well. No idea what it was or what snapped him out of it though. |
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dazb
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20/12/2008 : 15:01:51
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| thats good to hear. may have just been a bit of man flu. just fatten him up now just in case of a relapse... |
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Posted - 10/01/2009 : 22:44:56
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| wats the best size viv for a single leo. coz no care sheets ever say the same. but they all point around sumit between 24-36 inches. is that right. |
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Tizzy
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/01/2009 : 23:23:54
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Like you said your gonna get a differant answer for every peson or website you ask, I'd say a 2ft would be ok but as with most animals bigger is better so 3ft if you have the space. If your putting a baby in a 3ft be sure to fill it with hides and fake plants and stuff too. Alot of people start with baby leos in a faunarium but i dont rate them long term as no matter what the books say leos do like to climb. Great as a starter though and then a handy place to put you leo when your cleaning the viv too once it is is a bigger viv.
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Posted - 11/01/2009 : 11:24:10
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| Thanx Tizzy. Only 12 quid to go now :D |
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