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| HayleyH |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 20:24:42
Hi I need help!
I've had 2 corn snakes now for approx 7 weeks now......
they were both housed together in the shop so I kept them together...
had no problems at all with them at all thinking they were both males so kept a close eye on them just incase.....
the shop i had them from hadnt seen that the light coloured one had started the shedding process.....
so shedding wasnt as smooth going as it should have been and it was scratching at its skin eventually it managed to get it all off....
a week later the darker one started to shed had no problems at all with this one......
then 1 night near the middle of april just after they had both been fed the started acting very strange
they were both very active chasing each other around the viv then when they rested the both started twitching then they both went into the hide
thinking nothing of it i checked on them before i went to bed they both were fine and sleeping so left it at that and thought nothing of it
would 2 males act like that?????
then someone had said that it sounded they were doing the breeding process so i started to read up the breeding process
ive read that the females shed before releasing the eggs 2 days ago she went very grey in colour and is in the shedding process again
how long after the skin being shed would she release the eggs?
i cant see any visual signs at the minute that there are any eggs in the snake but i dont really know what im looking for??????
is it safe to handle the snake whilst its shedding or even carrying eggs ive tried research but i find that personal experience is usually better
ive been and got a box today and some moss and vermiculite as it says in a book to get just incase
when should i put this in the viv?
i will need alot of help during the process from eggs to sale of baby corns and any help is much appreciated |
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| a33272 |
Posted - 10/05/2012 : 14:59:43
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Originally posted by HayleyH
will do thank you to everyone for the help and advice if it turns out that they are both males i probably will keep them together as they have been housed together since the shop and they do seem to like curling up together usually and have no aggressiveness from either of them (me nor the hubby have had a bite off either yet either!!!!) but if it is male and female they will be seperated as dont think its fair to let her have a 2nd lot in a year will let you all know how i get on
Please don't assume that because they are curled up it means they are enjoying being together, co-habiting is a much debated subject. What appears to be them getting on could be them fighting for the nicest space.
Have a good read of this before u decide to co habit
http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1070
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| kev 5 |
Posted - 10/05/2012 : 13:27:56
just a quick one before i go back to work,so you know if you do get eggs your snake may have a second clutch around the same time the 1st lot hatch. even without the male being in the same viv. |
| HayleyH |
Posted - 10/05/2012 : 13:20:25
will do thank you to everyone for the help and advice if it turns out that they are both males i probably will keep them together as they have been housed together since the shop and they do seem to like curling up together usually and have no aggressiveness from either of them (me nor the hubby have had a bite off either yet either!!!!) but if it is male and female they will be seperated as dont think its fair to let her have a 2nd lot in a year will let you all know how i get on |
| Starmist |
Posted - 10/05/2012 : 11:07:51
Wow, just caught up with this! Hope everything goes okay with them both! I don't have any advice to offer you unfortunately as I only have one! I wish you the best of luck though and keep us all informed :) |
| Katie.Dublin |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 23:12:54
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Originally posted by Georgina
they should be kept seperatly any way x
They're adults and have been kept together previously. Its not a complete no no, but its not advised! |
| Georgina |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 22:40:09
they should be kept seperatly any way x |
| HayleyH |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 22:20:57
in a way i hope they are both males but its just my luck that they are male and female looking at new vivs just incase |
| HayleyH |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 22:17:06
quote:
Originally posted by Katie.Dublin
Don't want to confuse things but if the shop said they were both males it is possible. You didn't actually see them lock did you? (wrap around each other usually with a clear view of the males jiggley bits entering the female!)
the shop didnt know!!!!! and ive been back several times since and its as though they have no idea on how to look after reptiles they have no pasiion for them they just feed them and clean them out. have had more help on here tonight than what ive had from there in the last 10 times ive been up
and i didnt see them but would they behave like that if they were both males and they did go straight into the hide so they could have done it in there???? |
| Katie.Dublin |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 22:03:15
Don't want to confuse things but if the shop said they were both males it is possible. You didn't actually see them lock did you? (wrap around each other usually with a clear view of the males jiggley bits entering the female!) |
| kev 5 |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 21:59:16
cool,just ask if there is anything else you want to know |
| HayleyH |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 21:42:11
quote:
Originally posted by kev 5
i didn't realise she was still shedding,leave her until she has finished shedding. one of my females laid 17 eggs at the end of january but even a few days before she laid i couldn't feel anything and she didn't look swollen like most females do. to be honest unless you've seen them locked together you can't be 100% sure. i'd put a lay box in the viv tomorrow to be on the safe side and as the days pass she should spend more and more time in there
sorry i was actually just doing that!!!
will be taking a trip to the local reptile shop tomorrow to get the things i need to be on the safe side |
| Georgina |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 21:29:28
cool, you need to get am incubator set up ready now.
you can buy a shop bought one, but if you go to a local green grocer you can pic up a poly bix and lid
you need a heat mat
stat
vermiculate
take away boxes
and then as soon as the eggs are laid enough set ups for the amount of eggs.
and be prepaud for anything x |
| kev 5 |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 21:27:37
i didn't realise she was still shedding,leave her until she has finished shedding. one of my females laid 17 eggs at the end of january but even a few days before she laid i couldn't feel anything and she didn't look swollen like most females do. to be honest unless you've seen them locked together you can't be 100% sure. i'd put a lay box in the viv tomorrow to be on the safe side and as the days pass she should spend more and more time in there |
| HayleyH |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 21:22:41
quote:
Originally posted by Georgina
well you need to get prepaired quickly.
firstly seperate then adults
i would say that if she is gravid and she has had her pre lay shed, she should be showing? i think its an average of 10 - 16 days from the shed to laying.
she hasnt shed yet hopefully next 24 to 48hrs she will shed the skin shes just very dull and eyes have gone from a lovely red to a dull pinkish colour because of the skin |
| HayleyH |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 21:17:45
thank you kev
ive just had "her" out for a minute just to see if i can feel anything as she has run through my hands i thought i could feel something but am not positive there arent any visual signs as yet but she is still shedding so maybe after she has shed???????
could it be a coinsidence that the snake has shed as a normal shed and isnt a female after all
but would they do the twitching and chasing each other if they were males? |
| kev 5 |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 21:12:56
people use both kinds,i'm using 2 herp nursery 2's at the moment. you can make 1 though but you will also need a mat stat to control the heat mat and a digital thermometer with a probe. home made incubators can work just aswell. |
| HayleyH |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 21:03:48
ive been looking into how to make 1 with a heat mat and plastic boxes but would you recommend a proper one??? |
| kev 5 |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 20:52:24
have you got an incubator? |
| Georgina |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 20:52:08
well you need to get prepaired quickly.
firstly seperate then adults
i would say that if she is gravid and she has had her pre lay shed, she should be showing? i think its an average of 10 - 16 days from the shed to laying. |
| kev 5 |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 20:51:20
eggs are normaly laid between 7 and 14 days after the female has shed. You need to put the laying box in the viv now so she can get used to it |
