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NexivRed Posted - 13/02/2013 : 17:39:54
So people tend to recommend length and depth of a viv or RUB to be equal to their snake's body, and people spend money on upgrading their snakes to bigger and bigger accommodation. Yet the snakes kept in snake racks have nowhere near that amount of space. Yes I've seen some in large RUBs that take up a whole shelf for example, but others I've seen in "RUB drawers" with a hide, some substrate and a water bowl.

What is the actual answer on how a snake needs to be kept? Is a rack drawer the bare minimum or are those snakes compromised?

Reason being, I want to get a rack set up because I have an issue with space in my home. However I have no idea what the right thing is to do with regards to housing them.

Can someone who has adult snakes in rack RUBs post a picture of the different sizes you use?
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Criminal Nails Posted - 14/02/2013 : 12:53:14
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Originally posted by Dancross0

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Originally posted by Criminal Nails


Corn snakes are not arborial snakes



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=I9IsOtBAyyg#t=500s

Mine love a good climb; a 64 ltr RUB is tall enough to provide space for branches.

Must be said, RUBs are a lot more easier to clean than vivs...



They do love to climb, of course, but they're still not arboreal as a green tree python is. But you're right, I was assuming the RUB was flat and that does not necessarily need to be so :)
Dancross0 Posted - 14/02/2013 : 10:55:28
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Originally posted by Criminal Nails


Corn snakes are not arborial snakes



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=I9IsOtBAyyg#t=500s

Mine love a good climb; a 64 ltr RUB is tall enough to provide space for branches.

Must be said, RUBs are a lot more easier to clean than vivs...
Criminal Nails Posted - 14/02/2013 : 09:21:22
To my knowledge, the vivariums are the European way of housing whereas the RUBs are more the American lifestyle. With that said, IMO it's more a visual and financial thing than anything else.

In the wild, snakes are hidden under rocks and in crevaces most of the day time, and wander about at night. Keeping in mind Corn snakes are not arborical snakes, I don't think keeping an adult snake in a RUB is a bad husbandry practice as long as you take the time to take the snake out to explore several times a week.

The problem with RUBs can be not providing enough space for the snake to exercise, so this is a problem you need to bear in mind in order to successfully palliate it.
Dancross0 Posted - 13/02/2013 : 19:35:39
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Originally posted by gmac

the absolute minimum rub for an adult would be 33l rub, anything bigger is grand. In our rubs we give them hides, logs, cover etc
again i would say the minimum hides would be 2, one hot end one cool end the cool end hide could be the water bowl (plastic doggy ones are ideal)



It should be said that 33, 50, 64 and 84ltr RUBs all have the same floor area, but they get taller as you go up in size.
gmac Posted - 13/02/2013 : 19:23:20
the absolute minimum rub for an adult would be 33l rub, anything bigger is grand. In our rubs we give them hides, logs, cover etc
again i would say the minimum hides would be 2, one hot end one cool end the cool end hide could be the water bowl (plastic doggy ones are ideal)
Dancross0 Posted - 13/02/2013 : 19:11:01
As long as you have a good temperature gradient, and enough floor space in the RUB/tub, then an adult corn will be fine in a 50 or 64ltr RUB.

But there are people who would disagree, and say that RUBs are cruel and unusual, and it's easier to create "The Wild" in a viv.

Just for comparison, this is a 64ltr RUB in front of a LX36 viv.


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