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| stiepejs |
Posted - 03/04/2012 : 14:25:31
Hello!
It's been only one day since we got Snakey Snakerson (2 year old). It's our first snake. We set up Snakey following step by step instructions we found here and everything seems to be alright. We will introduce ourselves and post photos a bit later, however, there is one question:
For bedding shop gave us some wood chips and warned not to use aspen. They said it could kill the snake. I'm now wondering is it really necessary to take out snake for feeding? We thought it makes more sense to feed it in the vivarium.
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| ScalySituation |
Posted - 22/04/2012 : 09:52:29
i feed sonny outside the faun, but if he's taking a while i sometimes put him back in the faun with the food on newspaper so i can leave him alone in the warm for a little while, nearly always does the trick :) |
| ashby_steve |
Posted - 22/04/2012 : 09:47:19
i prefer feeding mine out of the viv
when i used to feed my male inside his viv he was expecting food whenever i opened the glass doors
so not to confuse between handling and meal times its better that way
(plus the guarantee that no substrate will stick to the mouse and get swallowed) |
| Moriarty |
Posted - 21/04/2012 : 13:18:50
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Originally posted by adamczuk
I've got a question, if feeding your snake outside its vivarium (in a seperate box) and you're not supposed to handle it after its eaten for a while, how do you transfer it back into its vivarium safely?
I feed out of the viv in a little tub with kitchen roll down, and once he's eaten I leave it a while until he starts to slither around the tub a little, and when his tongue starts to flick again, then I gently lift up the sides of the kitchen roll (hence also lifting the snake), then I put that in the viv and let him slither off whenever he's ready! |
| lotabob |
Posted - 21/04/2012 : 01:23:23
When the term 'handling' is used it is meaning to have them out for a while for armchair walkies. No handling doesn't mean you can't pick them up at all when required, sometimes its just necessary, as long as you dont fuss them or squeeze the mouse bump it will be absolutely fine. its the one time I pick them up more towards the tail than the norm of the middle and as soon as you raise their body up enough to slide a hand underneath then just lift them up. Just watch out for the feeding mode though, once they are in feeding mode you might be the next course, well an attempt at it anyway though it unlikely unless its my daft boa that will try eat you just after eating. |
| teabicky |
Posted - 20/04/2012 : 19:43:50
I think that it is o.k. to handle them enough to put them back into the Viv. The trick is tom keep it to a minimum, I've never had any trouble with mine.
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Originally posted by adamczuk
I've got a question, if feeding your snake outside its vivarium (in a seperate box) and you're not supposed to handle it after its eaten for a while, how do you transfer it back into its vivarium safely?
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| Spreebok |
Posted - 06/04/2012 : 00:12:57
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Originally posted by SexyBear77
Ha ha, I'd be too worried about them disappearing under the sofa! 
Naaah, they're too interested in their dinner my lot! Not to mention a few of them are completely bone idle. You can chuck Lister on the floor and she'll go to sleep xD |
| Donnie |
Posted - 05/04/2012 : 21:54:39
quote:
Originally posted by adamczuk
I've got a question, if feeding your snake outside its vivarium (in a seperate box) and you're not supposed to handle it after its eaten for a while, how do you transfer it back into its vivarium safely?
I put my feeding box inside my faun and let snakey slither out of the box into her hide. As I will be getting a bigger feeding RUB soon and won't be able to do this I think what you are meant to do is wait for 30 mins ish so they are out of feeding mode and then gently pick up but not holding the area where the mouse is and put back into viv. |
| adamczuk |
Posted - 05/04/2012 : 21:43:42
I've got a question, if feeding your snake outside its vivarium (in a seperate box) and you're not supposed to handle it after its eaten for a while, how do you transfer it back into its vivarium safely? |
| teabicky |
Posted - 04/04/2012 : 12:29:17
I would take the advice from the greatest number of sources, which you should find is aspen. We feed our's out of the viv, in a separate rub and have no trouble, some times it can take a while and others it is quick. This also gives me a good opportunity to clean the viv out, when necessary. |
| SexyBear77 |
Posted - 04/04/2012 : 11:35:35
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Originally posted by Spreebok
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Personally I think its a whole lot of faff over nothing, moving them from one container to another to feed.
>Implying I feed in tubs
I just chuck the buggers on the carpet xD
Ha ha, I'd be too worried about them disappearing under the sofa! |
| paulie78 |
Posted - 04/04/2012 : 10:05:36
what a load of nonsense aspen being bad for corns ugh some shops really do take the p! Artemis is a viv only feeder i clear a space under the hide for her and place the mouse there but she will drag it down the other end of the viv to eat i cant win lol |
| Sta~ple |
Posted - 04/04/2012 : 09:50:31
None of my snakes have died on aspen, wonder if he meant if feeding whilst in viv with aspen kills by impactation? But that can happen with any loose substrate weather it be aspen, wooden chips, sand, paper...
I feed in another tub rather than viv, I have tried feeding in viv and put newspaper down but they rolled it off and pushed it under the paper into the substrate. Tried again by covering the entire viv with newspaper on the floor, taking everything out, still managed to get rolled in aspen. Snakes also don't like their head being grabbed so I can pick out aspen from their gobs!
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| Spreebok |
Posted - 03/04/2012 : 22:13:32
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Personally I think its a whole lot of faff over nothing, moving them from one container to another to feed.
>Implying I feed in tubs
I just chuck the buggers on the carpet xD |
| sue2012 |
Posted - 03/04/2012 : 18:43:18
i feed out the viv just cos i get a good half hour of play time befor i feed them all i use beach wood chips and twice using aspin i have had outbrakes of mites my snakes love the very fine beacj chips as they can berry them self in that as much as they can aspen |
| Dancross0 |
Posted - 03/04/2012 : 17:07:34
I use beech chips, which is the standard wood chip used and feed in the viv. Although I do tend to feed the snakes on a big lumps of slate.... |
| Mamma |
Posted - 03/04/2012 : 16:15:47
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Originally posted by SexyBear77
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Personally I think its a whole lot of faff over nothing, moving them from one container to another to feed.
Is an excuse for me to have a handling session before I feed them too  |
| stiepejs |
Posted - 03/04/2012 : 16:11:27
Thanks for all the answers and advices! Next feeding is tomorrow, will see how it goes. |
| lupi lou |
Posted - 03/04/2012 : 15:54:47
mine is viv fed but he's also on cage carpet so i have no worries of him injesting anything. aspen is fine to use many people on this site use it, i would change the wood you have been sold if you don't know what it is to the aspen just to be safe. look forward to the pics! |
| SexyBear77 |
Posted - 03/04/2012 : 15:38:37
I feed all mine in their vivs with no issue. I find that if you feed the prey item bone dry (allow to defrost naturally, not in water) then very little sticks to it.
Personally I think its a whole lot of faff over nothing, moving them from one container to another to feed. If you are concerned then you can put down a dish or towel, but I don't and never have bothered. The problem with aspen is that you can find big, sharp, chunky bits in it, and whilst most snakes should have zero problem ingesting a bit of substrate here and there (think what they are designed to cope with in the wild, a captive snake has the same digestive abilities!), a small snake and a big twig can cause issues.
P.S I keep mine on a horse bedding similar to Auboise, it's just unbranded. |
| Spreebok |
Posted - 03/04/2012 : 15:34:18
Pffft, Apsen? Kill snakes? They're clearly talking about there bums! Aspen is pretty much THE substrate for Corns!
Swap it out for the woodchips, your corn will prefer it as Snakey can then dig and make little tunnels, and you'll prefer it as it's easier to spot poops on and to clean :D
As for feeding out the vivs, I prefer it, just eliminates any risks of ingestion, and it's not much of a hassle even with the 7 snakes :) |
