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Tiffany-x Posted - 30/08/2010 : 14:10:57
Ok so I dont have so much money to spend on setting up my snake, so I need to know are there any downsides to using RUB's and if so what are they? My plan is jus to get one for a couple of months until I can afford a viv or until christmas and get someone else to buy one for me. Lol. Thanks.
Tiffany-x
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mikerichards Posted - 13/09/2010 : 07:02:43
quote:
Originally posted by BHAFC72

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Originally posted by Mnementh

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Originally posted by Tiffany-x

quote:
Originally posted by Mnementh

Real "RUBS" are okay for drilling air holes , I drill all mine . Often people will say there is no need even for that because the real "RUBS" have a gap all the way round the top of the lid .

I can't really see any downside except for the "attractiveness" of how a RUB looks like next to a viv , rubs can be easily moved and cleaned and can be set up as good as a viv . Heat mats on the outside instead of the inside . I love em .

Put mat on outside with the probe on the mat , take the temp inside the rub on the floor over the mat and set the stat , this means the rub can be moved about with no trailing wires or removing probes etc .

They are not as clear as glass etc but you can still see easily enough through them .

No need for viv locks , they self lock .

I have 2 viv's left which are about to become RUBS , I just prefer them .

If no one has answered your post its because people don't magically appear when you click the "post new topic" button :) It is a bank holiday today after all :P



Hey Im just wondering what size RUB you use for adult snakes, Ive looked around and 84 is the biggest I can see and thats only 24x14 inch. Is that big enough? What size do you use and where do you get them from? Thanks.
Tiffany-x



I have adults in 64 litre rubs and 50 litre rubs , the 50 litres are plenty big enough , 64 litre is the same footprint but a little higher .
I have just bought a couple of 33 litres , again the same footprint but lower than the 50 litres .

They are like £10 or so .

You really dont need 145 litre :)

What part of the UK you in ?



I personally feel keeping adult corns in a rub is cruel.There is very little movement for them when they are active.
I see this as a cheap and easy way of storing a load of snakes without giving much thought to there needs.





Wow, wherever I go I find posts from you spouting rubbish.
Just so you know, its not that cheap and easy to 'store' loads of corns, however, it is a very effective way of keeping a few in a fairly minimal space.
Corns do not need huge areas to move about, most of the time they don't move about anyway, they are not overly active. The main times you see a snake move about is either for water, or hunting, given the choice they would be quite happy with food and water delivered.
Snakes as a rule do not like large spaces, as I said they generally stay in very sheltered places, for their safety, which is why using huge vivs and tubs are not a good idea for smaller younger snakes.

Tiffany, a 33l is plenty big enough, corns aren't climbers generally so they won't feel bad if they can't climb.
josh9961 Posted - 12/09/2010 : 22:20:40
A 75 litre RUB has a similar volume to a 3 foot vivarium. My sister in law's corn thrives in a large RUB. :)
BHAFC72 Posted - 12/09/2010 : 21:57:21
quote:
Originally posted by Mnementh

quote:
Originally posted by Tiffany-x

quote:
Originally posted by Mnementh

Real "RUBS" are okay for drilling air holes , I drill all mine . Often people will say there is no need even for that because the real "RUBS" have a gap all the way round the top of the lid .

I can't really see any downside except for the "attractiveness" of how a RUB looks like next to a viv , rubs can be easily moved and cleaned and can be set up as good as a viv . Heat mats on the outside instead of the inside . I love em .

Put mat on outside with the probe on the mat , take the temp inside the rub on the floor over the mat and set the stat , this means the rub can be moved about with no trailing wires or removing probes etc .

They are not as clear as glass etc but you can still see easily enough through them .

No need for viv locks , they self lock .

I have 2 viv's left which are about to become RUBS , I just prefer them .

If no one has answered your post its because people don't magically appear when you click the "post new topic" button :) It is a bank holiday today after all :P



Hey Im just wondering what size RUB you use for adult snakes, Ive looked around and 84 is the biggest I can see and thats only 24x14 inch. Is that big enough? What size do you use and where do you get them from? Thanks.
Tiffany-x



I have adults in 64 litre rubs and 50 litre rubs , the 50 litres are plenty big enough , 64 litre is the same footprint but a little higher .
I have just bought a couple of 33 litres , again the same footprint but lower than the 50 litres .

They are like £10 or so .

You really dont need 145 litre :)

What part of the UK you in ?



I personally feel keeping adult corns in a rub is cruel.There is very little movement for them when they are active.
I see this as a cheap and easy way of storing a load of snakes without giving much thought to there needs.

Tiffany-x Posted - 12/09/2010 : 19:45:55
Haha, yeah. Maybe I will need to find my way to a shop to have a little looky if I think a snake can escape. :) Thank you anyway.
Tiffany-x
BurnedAtTheStake Posted - 12/09/2010 : 19:42:06
I reckon the RUB handles ought to be pretty snakeproof - and many owners use them with no problems, it seems. Just tested Staples' handles (had two boxes nearby) - they are pretty stout too - you just need to double check them, they aren't quite as obvious to the eye as the Rubs. I would say they'd be fine for a yearling corn - I kept Shahi in one for a week or two as a baby, but royals are so placid ... corns are houdinis, as you know.
Tiffany-x Posted - 12/09/2010 : 19:35:11
Ok thanks, hopefully someone else will be here soon. :) The 2 little ladys I have seen are yearlings anyway and quite big ones at that so I should think they wouldnt be able to get through, ok so about the lock handles, what are they like? Are they strong enough to keep a snakey locked inside? :P
Tiffany-x
BurnedAtTheStake Posted - 12/09/2010 : 16:57:50
Hi, Tiffany! I have both Staples' and Really Useful Box brands as feeding boxes/emergency housing. The RUBs have those lift and lock type handles, the Staples' handles are chunkier but much along the same principle - they do lock in place, but, never having kept a snake for a long period in one of these boxes, I can't promise how secure they are. I would make an educated guess and say that the gap between lid and box might be big enough for a small corn hatchling to squeeze out - might be a good idea to line with kitchen paper or similar until the snake is larger, but maybe someone else could give further advice?
Tiffany-x Posted - 12/09/2010 : 15:35:52
Hey can I just ask if anyone on here uses the 68 litre staples brand RUB's because they seem to be a lot bigger it says they have lockable handles but they dont look it on the pictures. :/
Tiffany-x
Tiffany-x Posted - 31/08/2010 : 15:32:36
Oh ok, yeah I think Ill have a good look around for the cheapest place. Thanks for your help. :D
Tiffany-x
Mnementh Posted - 31/08/2010 : 15:30:04
quote:
Originally posted by Tiffany-x

Ok thank you, well lets go for East Midlands because I live somewhere in the middle of Nottingham Derby and Leicester. All 3 places are easily reachable for me. I think I will go for 64 litre in that case. Thanks.
Tiffany-x



Ahh okay , I just found a very cheap real "RUB" seller , I think I paid £7 each for the 33's , the 18's cost almost £9 in a shop .

But this is in the North East .
Tiffany-x Posted - 31/08/2010 : 15:25:31
Ok thank you, well lets go for East Midlands because I live somewhere in the middle of Nottingham Derby and Leicester. All 3 places are easily reachable for me. I think I will go for 64 litre in that case. Thanks.
Tiffany-x
Mnementh Posted - 31/08/2010 : 15:22:33
quote:
Originally posted by Tiffany-x

quote:
Originally posted by Mnementh

Real "RUBS" are okay for drilling air holes , I drill all mine . Often people will say there is no need even for that because the real "RUBS" have a gap all the way round the top of the lid .

I can't really see any downside except for the "attractiveness" of how a RUB looks like next to a viv , rubs can be easily moved and cleaned and can be set up as good as a viv . Heat mats on the outside instead of the inside . I love em .

Put mat on outside with the probe on the mat , take the temp inside the rub on the floor over the mat and set the stat , this means the rub can be moved about with no trailing wires or removing probes etc .

They are not as clear as glass etc but you can still see easily enough through them .

No need for viv locks , they self lock .

I have 2 viv's left which are about to become RUBS , I just prefer them .

If no one has answered your post its because people don't magically appear when you click the "post new topic" button :) It is a bank holiday today after all :P



Hey Im just wondering what size RUB you use for adult snakes, Ive looked around and 84 is the biggest I can see and thats only 24x14 inch. Is that big enough? What size do you use and where do you get them from? Thanks.
Tiffany-x



I have adults in 64 litre rubs and 50 litre rubs , the 50 litres are plenty big enough , 64 litre is the same footprint but a little higher .
I have just bought a couple of 33 litres , again the same footprint but lower than the 50 litres .

They are like £10 or so .

You really dont need 145 litre :)

What part of the UK you in ?
Tiffany-x Posted - 31/08/2010 : 15:04:53
Yeah 145 litre ones (28x21.5x16 inches) I found too but they are 35 quid, I may as well buy myself a viv at that price. LMFAO!
Tiffany-x
BurnedAtTheStake Posted - 31/08/2010 : 15:02:21
Ah, sorry - it's only just come back to me - I believe you can order bigger sizes from Staples - I don't know whether these are the proper RUBs or Staples' own brand. I think it's a case of they get them in to your order and you collect them from the store. There might be a website?
Tiffany-x Posted - 31/08/2010 : 15:01:48
Can I just hear your views on what size you would use and if that size is big enough? Thanks.
Tiffany-x
Tiffany-x Posted - 31/08/2010 : 14:53:14
Ok thanks, Ill have a little looky then! :P Thank youu. :D
Tiffany-x
BurnedAtTheStake Posted - 31/08/2010 : 14:40:30
quote:
Originally posted by Tiffany-x

I looked there and like I said 84 litre was the biggest.
Tiffany-x


B&Q do some really big ones- four feet long at least at rough guess - but I don't know how secure the lids would be - didn't look that closely.
Tiffany-x Posted - 31/08/2010 : 14:19:42
I looked there and like I said 84 litre was the biggest.
Tiffany-x
FiestaSTLou Posted - 31/08/2010 : 14:15:42
go to staples, they do every size imaginable lol

BATS that tip is awsome! we used to drill them but had to spend ages after sanding off the rough edges! im gna try ur tecnique next time its clean out day lol
Tiffany-x Posted - 31/08/2010 : 13:40:33
quote:
Originally posted by Mnementh

Real "RUBS" are okay for drilling air holes , I drill all mine . Often people will say there is no need even for that because the real "RUBS" have a gap all the way round the top of the lid .

I can't really see any downside except for the "attractiveness" of how a RUB looks like next to a viv , rubs can be easily moved and cleaned and can be set up as good as a viv . Heat mats on the outside instead of the inside . I love em .

Put mat on outside with the probe on the mat , take the temp inside the rub on the floor over the mat and set the stat , this means the rub can be moved about with no trailing wires or removing probes etc .

They are not as clear as glass etc but you can still see easily enough through them .

No need for viv locks , they self lock .

I have 2 viv's left which are about to become RUBS , I just prefer them .

If no one has answered your post its because people don't magically appear when you click the "post new topic" button :) It is a bank holiday today after all :P



Hey Im just wondering what size RUB you use for adult snakes, Ive looked around and 84 is the biggest I can see and thats only 24x14 inch. Is that big enough? What size do you use and where do you get them from? Thanks.
Tiffany-x

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