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| Mnementh |
Posted - 18/08/2010 : 16:03:12
As a way of Euthanising , please read the following link .
After noticing on this and other forums on how to euthanise snakes , including non feeding hatchlings , by freezing or decapitation I thought I would link to a paper that was written on the subject .
I was also at a well known and respected breeders house this week and I brought the topic of non feeding hatchlings up , apparently they can go for quite a time after hatching without feeding , longer than I suspect a lot of people believe , months as opposed to weeks .
http://www.anapsid.org/decap.html
Also have provided a video of a headless snake which is going the rounds on the internet atm , the video is a bit gruesome so be warned .
http://battlezoo.blogspot.com/2008/10/decapitated-snake-still-alive.html
Thanks . |
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| mikerichards |
Posted - 23/08/2010 : 09:20:59
Its the joy of owning rats, especially as most are about 2 years old now, we have lost 5 or 6 recently, with plenty more to go soon!! Iggy was awesome though, one of our first babies, and only having the one eye guaranteed him to be a keeper, but that was great, he was very friendly, just a shame we haven't had the time to give them that we used to, hence why they are not getting replaced. |
| gingerpony |
Posted - 23/08/2010 : 08:50:53
sorry to hear that hun  |
| mikerichards |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 14:46:53
Well, ignacious the one eyed rat went this morning, quickly and peacefully.
Incidentally, when perky was done a few weeks ago, he took 5 doses before giving up, he did not want to die! shame, he would have suffered so much had he not been done. |
| mikerichards |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 06:34:08
If a vet charges you 400 quid for a pts, then he saw you coming a mile off, although not snakes, the last 4 pts we have had haven't cost us a penny, and we got another today. |
| eeji |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 23:15:44
its not an easy thing to do, and after the first time it upset me quite a lot, but it is one of those nasties that are sometimes neccessary :( |
| kdlang |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 15:27:14
quote:
Originally posted by Mnementh
quote:
Originally posted by eeji
thankfully I've only ever had to euthanise two hatchlings,a pair of pliers did the trick. Hopefully its not something I'll have to do again :(
Damn m8 , don't think I could do that , but then when I start breeding it's those sort of things I may have to do
Not something I could do either. I think if the need ever arose I would have to take it to a vet or to someone with more guts than me. |
| Mnementh |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 13:49:54
quote:
Originally posted by eeji
thankfully I've only ever had to euthanise two hatchlings,a pair of pliers did the trick. Hopefully its not something I'll have to do again :(
Damn m8 , don't think I could do that , but then when I start breeding it's those sort of things I may have to do |
| eeji |
Posted - 19/08/2010 : 20:43:19
thankfully I've only ever had to euthanise two hatchlings,a pair of pliers did the trick. Hopefully its not something I'll have to do again :( |
| gingerpony |
Posted - 19/08/2010 : 15:35:49
quote:
Originally posted by pastie
if its your reptiles the vets can charge alot of money to put the animal to rest :\ £200-400+
wow!  don't think i'd go to your vet lol, we don't even charge £200 for a large dog with a private cremation and ashes returned in a nice box!! |
| lee2308 |
Posted - 19/08/2010 : 14:55:01
quote:
Originally posted by pastie
if its your reptiles the vets can charge alot of money to put the animal to rest :\ £200-400+
a couple of bricks is also useful for castrating cats and dogs if your a bit short on dosh
my vet charged £18 to put my king to sleep |
| gingerpony |
Posted - 19/08/2010 : 11:08:16
quote:
Originally posted by mikerichards
Barbituates will kill even if not injected in to the heart, just not as fast, but its still quick!!
unfortnately an animal in shock with low blood pressure and slow circulation can take a while to die if the injection is just 'intra-animal'............with mammals if a vein is collapsed the other options are heart or kidneys (not always an alternative means with a rep)
from my experience, with reps their ability to slow all their body processes down means anything injected can potentially still take a considerable time to work |
| BurnedAtTheStake |
Posted - 19/08/2010 : 10:15:35
quote:
Originally posted by pastie
if its your reptiles the vets can charge alot of money to put the animal to rest :\ £200-400+
a couple of bricks is also useful for castrating cats and dogs if your a bit short on dosh
CRINGE!!! (LOL!)
Would always prefer vet, and have got a 'rainy day' fund for that. But if it was an emergency - like being in the middle of nowhere with no transport, or finding a badly injured snake in the wild and having nothing to carry it in to the vet, and no transport (I haven't got a car) - it's agood idea to know what to do.
Worst case scenario merchant, that's me ... |
| pastie |
Posted - 19/08/2010 : 09:37:58
if its your reptiles the vets can charge alot of money to put the animal to rest :\ £200-400+
a couple of bricks is also useful for castrating cats and dogs if your a bit short on dosh |
| matty18714 |
Posted - 19/08/2010 : 09:16:28
quote:
Originally posted by eeji
the only 'humane' way to euthanise a snake (or any reptile) at home without access to drugs is total destruction of the brain - any other way is not instant :(
Thats what I meant by getting your hands dirty. |
| mikerichards |
Posted - 18/08/2010 : 23:24:21
Barbituates will kill even if not injected in to the heart, just not as fast, but its still quick!!
I was holding Badger the rat when he was PTS a couple of weeks ago, he wasnt injected into his heart, just his body cavity, but it was still quick, and thankfully very peaceful, its the reflexes after death that are the nasty ones!
I know people who have frozen snakes to kill them, using the reasoning that the snake will die of exposure before actually freezing, i guess that isnt true!!!
If you wanna save yourself a few quid, then a couple of bricks will do the job very effectively. |
| BurnedAtTheStake |
Posted - 18/08/2010 : 21:54:13
Right - so you'd have to brain it like a pinkie - either bash the head or use something, like scissors or secateurs, to snip or crush the skull ... horrible subject but if there was an emergency it would be better knowing what to do - hope I never do have to do it. |
| eeji |
Posted - 18/08/2010 : 21:43:46
the only 'humane' way to euthanise a snake (or any reptile) at home without access to drugs is total destruction of the brain - any other way is not instant :( |
| lee2308 |
Posted - 18/08/2010 : 20:41:23
interesting read,snakes have been known to bite once decapitated |
| gingerpony |
Posted - 18/08/2010 : 20:39:56
that's providing a vet can actually locate the heart - difficult in particularly large or small specimens - they may need to use ultrasound to help them so even THAT option isn't as straight forward as a smallie |
| matty18714 |
Posted - 18/08/2010 : 18:31:06
Killing a snake humanely is hard unless you are happy to get your hands very dirty, I definatley would not cut its head off.
A vet will do it by injecting a huge amount of barbiturates directly into the heart, and then cutting the snakes spine where it joins the skull. |
