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| mikerichards |
Posted - 17/06/2010 : 12:10:25
Have a guess, its not one you see very often!
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| mikerichards |
Posted - 14/07/2011 : 16:02:24
i can do more pics, however, i dont have anything else that is a little 'different'!!! |
| HERICUS |
Posted - 13/07/2011 : 20:03:32
wouldnt be a T+ by any chance would it??
;) like id know that!?!?!?!
nice snake tho, would love to see more pics if possible. |
| stotty01 |
Posted - 12/07/2011 : 20:42:41
is it a orange corn snake....not as in kehhlyrs meaning but as in the morph :P |
| eeji |
Posted - 12/07/2011 : 18:49:01
quote:
Originally posted by Cornsnakeluver127
all right not all of us can speak the secret lanuage og morphs so spit it out what is T plus
quote:
Originally posted by eeji
t+ is tyrosinase positive which means tyrosinase enzymes are present so the animal still produces melanin (black pigment) so the albinos can still show shades of black.
regular amelanistic is t- (tyrosinase negative) which means tyrosinase is totally absent so its impossible to produce melanin.
Ultra is a form of t+ albino because its on the amelanistic locus in the chromosome but is still able to produce melanin. There's been lots of debate as to whether t+ is actually ultra or ultramel - the last I heard (quite a while ago now - i must keep up!) there was still test breeding to regular amel to see what happened.
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| Cornsnakeluver127 |
Posted - 12/07/2011 : 11:28:25
all right not all of us can speak the secret lanuage og morphs so spit it out what is T plus |
| n/a |
Posted - 25/06/2010 : 23:11:24
tells = i figured.. omg i should stay away from posting while ****ed tbh... |
| n/a |
Posted - 25/06/2010 : 23:09:20
I would have guessed Sunkissed lava, but something tells me its a bit more difficult than that ;) |
| inkiepixie |
Posted - 21/06/2010 : 20:59:49
I am completely lost with most of this conversation, but I actually know the woman who runs Messybeast in real life and she's very thorough with her research so she's probably right |
| mikerichards |
Posted - 21/06/2010 : 18:28:39
It can get confusing when you start crossing things that havent really been done to a great degree! t+ ultra is a project worth doing!
i have a female Ultramel anery! |
| luke1989 |
Posted - 21/06/2010 : 17:43:37
................... confusing ............. |
| eeji |
Posted - 18/06/2010 : 21:25:39
that definetly has to be a future project, ultra t+! :D |
| mikerichards |
Posted - 18/06/2010 : 19:20:41
I have both, they are different, there is no black on the t+, what looks like black on the saddle borders is actually faint purple. The ultra has small amounts off black, and quite different eye color too, pics tomorrow. |
| eeji |
Posted - 18/06/2010 : 19:00:03
t+ is tyrosinase positive which means tyrosinase enzymes are present so the animal still produces melanin (black pigment) so the albinos can still show shades of black.
regular amelanistic is t- (tyrosinase negative) which means tyrosinase is totally absent so its impossible to produce melanin.
Ultra is a form of t+ albino because its on the amelanistic locus in the chromosome but is still able to produce melanin. There's been lots of debate as to whether t+ is actually ultra or ultramel - the last I heard (quite a while ago now - i must keep up!) there was still test breeding to regular amel to see what happened. |
| Kellog |
Posted - 18/06/2010 : 11:59:49
quote:
Originally posted by Kehhlyr
It's orange and red, with flecks of white and small bits of black underneath.
Far to easy. 
You are getting too predictable Kehhlyr !!!
I wouldnt have a clue as I dont even attempt to guess at the easiest morphs....but am not surprised Eeji got it right (would have been a shock if he hadnt  ).
It is so hard to believe it is a type of albino....I know it is stereotypical but you always think of albinos as white with red eyes, which I know it totally wrong in snake terms.
Found this quote when I googled Albino - 'Albinism is due to various gene mutations that affect the production of normal pigmentation. True (amelanistic) albinos lack melanin and are white with no markings and with unpigmented pink eyes. Partial (blue-eyed) albinos have some residual pigmentation. There are various degrees of patchy albinism (piebaldism) due to localised mutations in skin cells........
Bluish-grey anerythristic albinos lack the red colour. Axanthic albinos lack the yellow colour. The actual colour and pattern of these animal depends on what other colours are in the pattern. Tyrosinase-negative albinos lack tyrosinase (an enzyme which synthesises melanin) in their cells; this usually produces a pale yellowish or cream animal with pink-eyes. The more common Tyrosinase Positive albino cannot synthesise melanin, but can synthesise tyrosinase, giving a fawn or lavender (platinum) colour.'......but then the site showed this pic of an 'albino' rat snake - http://www.messybeast.com/albinism/alb-reptile.htm. Are they right that it is an albino or wrong?
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| DannyBrown91 |
Posted - 17/06/2010 : 22:39:10
I forgot about the eyes because they look a deep red in the pics. |
| mikerichards |
Posted - 17/06/2010 : 22:08:22
I am not entirely sure how t+ works, its a different type of albino, I think t- is regular albino. Its t+ or - something, I can't remember. |
| mikerichards |
Posted - 17/06/2010 : 22:05:08
T+ works in weird ways, they eyes shouldn't be black on an amel either!
Although the pic shows them as a little red, they aren't. |
| DannyBrown91 |
Posted - 17/06/2010 : 19:16:10
quote:
Originally posted by devilsmistress
Im gonna guess at a sunkissed ultramel. Deffently some kind of amel as there is no black. My only other thoughts wew a fire or lava?
Amel wouldn't have black on the belly checkers. |
| luke1989 |
Posted - 17/06/2010 : 19:14:12
what is t+? MORE GUESSING GAMES PLEASE :D:D |
| mikerichards |
Posted - 17/06/2010 : 19:09:06
I was expecting you to get it eeji!
It is indeed a t+. |
