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josh9961 Posted - 14/08/2010 : 23:22:41
Does it annoy anyone else when you're reading say, a news story, or something else factual and it starts going on about poisonous snakes? News sites are the worst, they're meant to be giving people facts but instead they're using incorrect terminology! I find myself raging at them in my own head. I will not stand for this!
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BurnedAtTheStake Posted - 18/08/2010 : 16:36:00
quote:
Originally posted by Whitedog

PMSL at that frog hopper....



LOL!!!! Sounds like you too might need a change of underwear ...

(Sorry, sorry, couldn't resist!)
n/a Posted - 18/08/2010 : 16:00:09
PMSL at that frog hopper....
DannyBrown91 Posted - 18/08/2010 : 15:31:00
quote:
Originally posted by lee2308

quote:
Originally posted by DannyBrown91

I'll have a look on google in a minute and see if i can get any answers

imsure you will find some good answers on there along with toher interesting facts



Poison - a toxin that causes its effect through ingestion or absorption
Venom - a toxin that causes its effect through administration via a specialized delivery system.
lee2308 Posted - 18/08/2010 : 14:36:23
quote:
Originally posted by DannyBrown91

I'll have a look on google in a minute and see if i can get any answers

imsure you will find some good answers on there along with toher interesting facts
BurnedAtTheStake Posted - 18/08/2010 : 13:48:49
quote:
Originally posted by Sta~ple

I always wondered what they were called! Those bugs are awesome little guys I love picking them up and then touching them and them going "ping" and no-where to be found!

Cute aren't they :D



LOL!!! You too? I always thought it was just me that enjoyed making them go 'ping'! Cool!
Sta~ple Posted - 18/08/2010 : 13:35:44
I always wondered what they were called! Those bugs are awesome little guys I love picking them up and then touching them and them going "ping" and no-where to be found!

Cute aren't they :D
BurnedAtTheStake Posted - 18/08/2010 : 13:10:33
quote:
Originally posted by Sta~ple

quote:
Originally posted by BurnedAtTheStake

A good few years back I was walking with my ex (lovely guy, still friends, but he's a townee) in some woods, and the grass was covered with that white frothy stuff caused by that tiny froghopper insect. I said, 'Oh, look at all the cuckoo spit.'

And ex went, 'Whaaaat? A CUCKOO did THAT????? Dirty bird!!!!'

Bless him!

It's funny the words and phrases that can get taken literally!



I always did wonder about cuckoo spit... I'm guessing its a bug that does it? Either way it's dirty lol



Yeah, you may have noticed, while sitting outside in summer, a funny little brown insect rather like a frog (hence the name froghopper) that lands on you and springs off (there are no apparent wings). The 'cuckoo spit' is caused by the larva of this beastie - the larva looks very similar, but is soft and pale; when it hatches out it sucks leaves and grass and uses the sap to exude a sticky froth to protect itself from predators and hot sun. Next time you see some cuckoo spit, take some on your finger and you will probably see the little insect cocooned inside it. It can be a pest in gardens.

(As you may have noticed, I'm fascinated with creepy crawlies. When I was married it was always me who used to get the job of removing the spider from the bath. And I talked to it, too ...)
Sta~ple Posted - 18/08/2010 : 12:53:28
quote:
Originally posted by BurnedAtTheStake

A good few years back I was walking with my ex (lovely guy, still friends, but he's a townee) in some woods, and the grass was covered with that white frothy stuff caused by that tiny froghopper insect. I said, 'Oh, look at all the cuckoo spit.'

And ex went, 'Whaaaat? A CUCKOO did THAT????? Dirty bird!!!!'

Bless him!

It's funny the words and phrases that can get taken literally!



I always did wonder about cuckoo spit... I'm guessing its a bug that does it? Either way it's dirty lol
mikerichards Posted - 18/08/2010 : 11:54:15
I actually wrote to the sun newspaper, telling them that they were totally wrong and shouldnt be printing something that is factually incorrect.
I never got a reply from them, so i guess that they will be printing rubbish like normal!
I think it was to do with the False Water cobra article with Nigel 'numpty' Marvin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJIIVrkLBrQ

Notice how he says its totally harmless at the beginning, then concedes that it is actually venemous at the end, after its chewed him!
gingerpony Posted - 18/08/2010 : 09:05:54
quote:
Originally posted by BurnedAtTheStake

quote:
Originally posted by josh9961

snake venom isnt usually harmful at all if ingested, the enzymes in the saliva break it down :)



Tell that to a journalist.

I just have this vision of a room full of media types (badly in need of a change of underwear) cringing away from a rub containing a corn hatchling, while our Josh gives them a much-needed lecture on the different kinds of snake...

I'm not sadistic either, but nice one!


me too! love it!!
DannyBrown91 Posted - 17/08/2010 : 22:39:38
quote:
Originally posted by Sta~ple

Hrrm this is what I am confused about Danny. But you get poison darts or are these darts and you can get blood poison and ink poisoning but none of those terms it doesn't have to be ingested or even make its way through broken skin. Good old google does seem to suggest what you said Danny but I wonder why the terms only apply to animals and not objects.



Maybe venom is only naturally produced by animals or maybe to be envenomated rather than poisoned it has to come from an animal which naturally creates and secretes the venom.

I'll have a look on google in a minute and see if i can get any answers
BurnedAtTheStake Posted - 17/08/2010 : 22:20:34
A good few years back I was walking with my ex (lovely guy, still friends, but he's a townee) in some woods, and the grass was covered with that white frothy stuff caused by that tiny froghopper insect. I said, 'Oh, look at all the cuckoo spit.'

And ex went, 'Whaaaat? A CUCKOO did THAT????? Dirty bird!!!!'

Bless him!

It's funny the words and phrases that can get taken literally!
josh9961 Posted - 17/08/2010 : 22:11:00
Poison dart frogs are so named because the local tribes use their poison to tip their blowdarts not cos they shoot poison as my little cousin believes
Sta~ple Posted - 17/08/2010 : 22:05:11
Hrrm this is what I am confused about Danny. But you get poison darts or are these darts and you can get blood poison and ink poisoning but none of those terms it doesn't have to be ingested or even make its way through broken skin. Good old google does seem to suggest what you said Danny but I wonder why the terms only apply to animals and not objects.
DannyBrown91 Posted - 17/08/2010 : 20:27:11
quote:
Originally posted by Sta~ple

Um I'm stupid, I know their is a difference between venomous and poisnoius but I'm not sure what the difference is



I think a poison has to be ingested, whereas venom is injected.

So like Kehhlyr said before if you have somebody who has been bitten by a venemous snake they have been envenomated, if somebody then tries to suck the venom out of the wound they could be poisoned.

Is that correct, or am i completely wrong?
BurnedAtTheStake Posted - 17/08/2010 : 19:14:38
Yup, that's the media for you. Rare examples of surviving brain donors ...
Sta~ple Posted - 17/08/2010 : 19:04:44
Um I'm stupid, I know their is a difference between venomous and poisnoius but I'm not sure what the difference is

The newspaper always hype up stuff, if they didn't hype it up it wouldn't sell. Because of this sadly, no-one will ever know the true story. There have seen severak cases where it was hyped up so much that it the writers have had a good slap on the wrist although, these were non snake related.

I can rember that woman who found a corn under a bin or something and the newpspare had hyped it all up and then took a stupid picture of her even stupier face looking in the bin
BurnedAtTheStake Posted - 16/08/2010 : 21:25:10
quote:
Originally posted by Kehhlyr

quote:
Originally posted by BurnedAtTheStake

Thanks, but sorry, I can't ...

Been my own veterinary nurse for decades and coped with some gruesome stuff in the days when a lot of animal nursing was left up to the owner, but can't read about a snake in a washing machine ... what a wuss ...



It's not bad or gruesome, the snake in question is still happy and live and kicking.
Think she was coined a ninja snake soon afterwards as well for another of her escapades.



Oh good, I'm glad to hear she's okay. Live and kicking ...
Kehhlyr Posted - 16/08/2010 : 21:17:38
quote:
Originally posted by BurnedAtTheStake

Thanks, but sorry, I can't ...

Been my own veterinary nurse for decades and coped with some gruesome stuff in the days when a lot of animal nursing was left up to the owner, but can't read about a snake in a washing machine ... what a wuss ...



It's not bad or gruesome, the snake in question is still happy and live and kicking.
Think she was coined a ninja snake soon afterwards as well for another of her escapades.
BurnedAtTheStake Posted - 16/08/2010 : 20:23:10
LOL - I remember that! They get on top of the female and groan and go OMG! and fall off ...

I meant to add, if you get him more wives and make a million bucks, that also means a hell of a lot of doe ...

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